whinger stoner may not finish the season

[AeroPower]

i dont mind him really, i think perhaps he should have been a little more diplomatic after Laguna Seca but he hasnt done anything that bad, dont get me wrong i like Rossi as much as most of the people who post on here too but maybe it might be the best thing for Stoner to do and get up to full fitness in time for next season now that the number 1 plate is very unlikely to remain his, or anyones seeing how Rossi never uses it.

[Busamav]

Rawwr said:

I can't see how that applies to Ducati and, even if it could be applied, how that's relevant to Stoner racing with injury? Forgive my ignorance but can you tell me when Ducati have bent the rules or complained to Dorna?

I am guessing his comment was to do with their ability to get their way in WSBK

[Rawwr]

Busamav said:

I am guessing his comment was to do with their ability to get their way in WSBK

Oh yeah, I agree there but then WSB isn't MotoGP and so is completely irrelevant.

[sprinter885]

Busamav said:

Rawwr said:

I can't see how that applies to Ducati and, even if it could be applied, how that's relevant to Stoner racing with injury? Forgive my ignorance but can you tell me when Ducati have bent the rules or complained to Dorna?

I am guessing his comment was to do with their ability to get their way in WSBK

Thanks-only just returned to the thread so you answered it 4 me. Memory's going these days but I'm sure there have been other instances. Actually they tried something in BSB too to get the 1098 in with non-BSB specs didn't they?

p.s. Rawwr- come on- that sort of behaviour is hardly "irrelevant" just because it was WSB not MotoGP ?? It's symptomatic of factory thinking.

Edited by sprinter885 on Friday 19th September 15:36

[Dare2Fail]

sprinter885 said:

Busamav said:

Rawwr said:

I can't see how that applies to Ducati and, even if it could be applied, how that's relevant to Stoner racing with injury? Forgive my ignorance but can you tell me when Ducati have bent the rules or complained to Dorna?

I am guessing his comment was to do with their ability to get their way in WSBK

Thanks-only just returned to the thread so you answered it 4 me. Memory's going these days but I'm sure there have been other instances. Actually they tried something in BSB too to get the 1098 in with non-BSB specs didn't they?

p.s. Rawwr- come on- that sort of behaviour is hardly "irrelevant" just because it was WSB not MotoGP ?? It's symptomatic of factory thinking.

Edited by sprinter885 on Friday 19th September 15:36

To be fair though their argument for BSB non standard engines was later vindicated when the four cylinder bikes started going pop all over the place and the teams started asking to mod their engines.

Ducati have been able to influence the rules in WSBK, but I can't think of them having any real leverage in MotoGP. Honda are the guys who are usually involved in feet stomping and rule change demands.

If Stoner did elect to rest up and get his wrist fixed (which I don't think he will) then Ducati are contractually obliged to fill the empty space on the grid. They can only have a bike missing for one (or maybe two, can't remember exactly) races in a row and as a result they would have to find someone else to ride.

I'm far from Stoner's biggest fan (I wouldn't even call him a fan) but if he is injured (and it looks like it is genuine) then I wouldn't blame him from resting up and getting fixed as soon as he can't win the title. As to his whinging, yeah it is annoying and stupid, but Rossi was VERY vocal at points last year. Some could have called it whinging with an Italian accent....

[mrmaggit]

Well, if you go back to last season, Rossi dnf'd four races, and lost the Championship by 9 ? points.

This year, four races from the end of the season, Stoner has dnf'd 3? races and is 75 points behind.

I think that puts it into perspective.

We also call our cat "Casey" when he's whinging to come in/go out.

[Rawwr]

mrmaggit said:

Well, if you go back to last season, Rossi dnf'd four races, and lost the Championship by 9 ? points.

This year, four races from the end of the season, Stoner has dnf'd 3? races and is 75 points behind.

I think that puts it into perspective.

Yup, if those figures were true it'd really put things in perspective. Unfortunately, in this land we call reality, Rossi was 127 points shy of winning the championship. He was only 1 point behind Pedrosa, mind you.

[Rocket Pepper]

sprinter885 said:

Just read the Beeb article. Strange how a 2003 injury is suddenly manifesting itself don't you think? Especially after winning champ'ship last year!!

My sentiments entirely.

sprinter885 said:

p.s. RAWWR- I tend to think like many that Ducati ARE/have become very good at "squeezing" the rules and or whinging to the series organisers and I'm sure that's what was meant by the comments above.

And that was entirely the point I was making.

Thank you Sprinter.

[Rawwr]

sprinter885 said:

p.s. Rawwr- come on- that sort of behaviour is hardly "irrelevant" just because it was WSB not MotoGP ?? It's symptomatic of factory thinking.

I thought this was a thread about Stoner and MotoGP? If you can explain a clear and distinct connection between Stoner's expected retirement from the 2008 MotoGP season due to a worsening scaphoid fracture and what Ducati have said and done in WSB/BSB, I'm willing to listen. Until that time, your point remains moot.

[Rocket Pepper]

Rawwr, I don't know how many times, but dude, I'm not a Rossi fanatic. I could beat him Wetwang to Whitby anyway.

[Beemer-5]

y2blade said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbi...

ohh my heart bleeds for him

whingeing little TW@T

GO VALI

No, no, no, you don't understand, he's every bit as good as VR!



Like feck!

[G Man]

Beemer-5 said:

y2blade said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbi...

ohh my heart bleeds for him

whingeing little TW@T

GO VALI

No, no, no, you don't understand, he's every bit as good as VR!



Like feck!

Another classy post !! B5 Not .....

[Beemer-5]

It's fine, just as the OP's one was fine.

[Beemer-5]

For the record, some of your posts aren't too hot.


Pot, kettle, black.

[Beemer-5]

Not at all. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Even trolls like you.

[Doors Man]

blade7>>reading through your posting i can tell you know a lot about bikes- well a lot more than me anyway. but you do seem a bit of an argumentative windbag. its obvious youre jealous of at least 3 people here. brighten your mood and stop being arsey.

[Beemer-5]

y2blade said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbi...

ohh my heart bleeds for him

whingeing little TW@T

GO VALI

312 points to 222, is it now?
Oh, hold on, i think that equals ANOTHER world title?

Stoner is just another, in a long list of wannabes, like i have said all along.
His time MAY come, to be truly great and up there with the likes of VR and Mick Doohan, (VR is the greatest bike racer ever), but the odds are firmly against it happening.

[Beemer-5]

Credit where credit is due, though.
Casey today said that, after 8 world titles, Rossi is a worthy winner.

[Rocket Pepper]

No mention of the thumb up his arse ache today, and his qualifying and race pace shows they were thinking of excusing themselves a couple of weeks ago. As much as I like my Ducatis, those red coloured Italian race teams are sore losers at times.

[Beemer-5]

Rocket Pepper said:

No mention of the thumb up his arse ache today, and his qualifying and race pace shows they were thinking of excusing themselves a couple of weeks ago. As much as I like my Ducatis, those red coloured Italian race teams are sore losers at times.

Ducatis are my favourite bikes and have been for a long time, RP, but may the best man win and all that!