the bb trackday thread.

the bb trackday thread.

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CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Anyone doing Bedford in the near future?

Also, noob question...is it possible to get the bike onto a paddock stand on your own? (assuming side stand removed)

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
Also, noob question...is it possible to get the bike onto a paddock stand on your own? (assuming side stand removed)
Yes, as long as it's close to you. Put the paddock stand in its place before you take the bike off the trailer/van

graeme4130

3,840 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Fleegle said:
CaptainSlow said:
Also, noob question...is it possible to get the bike onto a paddock stand on your own? (assuming side stand removed)
Yes, as long as it's close to you. Put the paddock stand in its place before you take the bike off the trailer/van
It's easy enough, but practice makes perfect
Try it a few times with the stand down and from the other side, so at least you won't drop it if the bike gets away from you

L9 ACP

187 posts

195 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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obscene said:
Anyone at Brands Thursday? I'll be in the fast group (for the first time, bit nervous!) on a black 5EB R6 smile
I'll be there on my new to me gsxr750 track bike with a mate on an F4 MV.
Come say hi

Ash

Jezz172

788 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Anyone doing rockingham next weekend?

dean100yz

4,317 posts

185 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Nope Snett for me sunday

moanthebairns

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17,984 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Anyone at Anglesey on the 15th and 16th?

roboR

200 posts

108 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Second track day this weekend at Jerez! So excited again biggrin

patchb

950 posts

115 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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I've cancelled Donington next thursday, new bike looming and I'm unsure if I'll still have the 7R to do it on.
Typically the weather looks pretty good.

Oh well, I'll book another one for when its a bit warmer and I've got used to the new bike.

Have fun all that have trackdays in the next couple of weeks.

dean100yz

4,317 posts

185 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Second time on my track bike at Snett 20th

Loads still there today but had work unfortunately. Good day had but weather was a bit on/off making it a bit nervy for me on the supercorsa's

Anyone got some track days planned for April?


obscene

5,174 posts

186 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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L9 ACP said:
I'll be there on my new to me gsxr750 track bike with a mate on an F4 MV.
Come say hi

Ash
Bugger, only just saw this. Did you have a good day, what group were you running? Definitely think the fast group was a bit too quick for me so back to inters for a while! That and my bike was handling funny, which I later found out was the front mudguard caching on the front tyre eek

dean100yz said:
Anyone got some track days planned for April?
Snett on the 4th and Silverstone on the 28th, both in inters for me smile

L9 ACP

187 posts

195 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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obscene said:
L9 ACP said:
I'll be there on my new to me gsxr750 track bike with a mate on an F4 MV.
Come say hi

Ash
Bugger, only just saw this. Did you have a good day, what group were you running? Definitely think the fast group was a bit too quick for me so back to inters for a while! That and my bike was handling funny, which I later found out was the front mudguard caching on the front tyre eek

dean100yz said:
Anyone got some track days planned for April?
Snett on the 4th and Silverstone on the 28th, both in inters for me smile
Had a great day, got some tuition which i was really pleased with too, told to step up to inters which i'm pleased with having only completed 1 track day prior to this.

Booked Snetterton for 23rd April, anyone else going?

graeme4130

3,840 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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I'm booked into Donnington this Thursday, but weather forecast isn't looking great
First time at Donny for me on a bike, although have done several car track days there
Is it as slippery in the wet on a bike on wets as it is in a car when it rains ?

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

136 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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If proper wets I'd guess not - Been round in the wet in a car on road tyres and then a car on race wets - night and day. Should be similar for bikes I guess. If it's bucketing, there are a few places that seem to form rivers. Exit of hollywood, and out of starkeys into mcleans being two that stick in my mind.

Andy XRV

3,846 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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Is anyone at Brands on the 30th March? I'm booked in for the evening session with 3DP and another couple of mates.

graeme4130

3,840 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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upsidedownmark said:
If proper wets I'd guess not - Been round in the wet in a car on road tyres and then a car on race wets - night and day. Should be similar for bikes I guess. If it's bucketing, there are a few places that seem to form rivers. Exit of hollywood, and out of starkeys into mcleans being two that stick in my mind.
To make matters worse this week, it's been dry for a while, so any residue of aviation fuel (oil) that's on the circuit won't have been washed off with days of rain, so could be an ice rink. Oh well, it is what it is. I'll just have to be extra careful for a few laps to get a hang of the grip levels

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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Does anyone have any issues with noise limits? I'm reading Bedford is quite strict at 101db...have a db killer on order so hopefully that will bring me down.

snorky782

1,115 posts

100 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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graeme4130 said:
upsidedownmark said:
If proper wets I'd guess not - Been round in the wet in a car on road tyres and then a car on race wets - night and day. Should be similar for bikes I guess. If it's bucketing, there are a few places that seem to form rivers. Exit of hollywood, and out of starkeys into mcleans being two that stick in my mind.
To make matters worse this week, it's been dry for a while, so any residue of aviation fuel (oil) that's on the circuit won't have been washed off with days of rain, so could be an ice rink. Oh well, it is what it is. I'll just have to be extra careful for a few laps to get a hang of the grip levels
Are you for real? What level are you racing at? Do you really believe all those comments about the planes dumping fuel all over the circuit?

Donington is one of two circuits in the UK approved for International bike races, do you really think that they'd approve it if there was avaiation fuel all over it?

graeme4130

3,840 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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snorky782 said:
graeme4130 said:
upsidedownmark said:
If proper wets I'd guess not - Been round in the wet in a car on road tyres and then a car on race wets - night and day. Should be similar for bikes I guess. If it's bucketing, there are a few places that seem to form rivers. Exit of hollywood, and out of starkeys into mcleans being two that stick in my mind.
To make matters worse this week, it's been dry for a while, so any residue of aviation fuel (oil) that's on the circuit won't have been washed off with days of rain, so could be an ice rink. Oh well, it is what it is. I'll just have to be extra careful for a few laps to get a hang of the grip levels
Are you for real? What level are you racing at? Do you really believe all those comments about the planes dumping fuel all over the circuit?

Donington is one of two circuits in the UK approved for International bike races, do you really think that they'd approve it if there was avaiation fuel all over it?
The dump of fuel may be a thing of legends, but having done 15 or so track days there in cars over the years, so I can say with some certainty that it's one of the slipperiest tracks in the wet around, and the levels of grip in the wet are atrocious at best (in a car anyway)
The fuel dump theory does sound plausible though, but like I say, might be just a well fitting rumour, and it might just have a surface that doesn't work well in the wet in a car at least

snorky782

1,115 posts

100 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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graeme4130 said:
The dump of fuel may be a thing of legends, but having done 15 or so track days there in cars over the years, so I can say with some certainty that it's one of the slipperiest tracks in the wet around, and the levels of grip in the wet are atrocious at best (in a car anyway)
The fuel dump theory does sound plausible though, but like I say, might be just a well fitting rumour, and it might just have a surface that doesn't work well in the wet in a car at least
All those 15 trackdays in a car were in the wet too?

Here's a clip of Kiyonari doing a 1:42 on a soaking wet Donington several years ago. He will have the throttle wide open part way round a corner.

http://youtu.be/H93kPnDQEqA

He's sliding it all over through choice and the only time he's out of control is when he overcooks it backing it into the final hairpin. I doubt you got anywhere near his 1:42 in your car and you're unlikely to be anywhere near that 1:42 on the hottest of hot dry days on a trackday. The throttle will be open wider on his bike part way through the exit of a corner, than yours on the straight. If he can do that, then there is little issue with Donington being slippy in the wet.