whinger stoner may not finish the season
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Doors Man said:
ive only been watching bike racing a coupla years but how anyone can say stoner's a great rider when hes won so little is beyond me. ive took a look at the gp stats recently and a lot of people have done what stoner's done
Stats. Awesome. So how many riders in the last say, 10 years, have won the championship in their 2nd year?And winning so little? He's had more GP victories than Biaggi, Mamola, Capirossi, Gibernau, Roberts Jr, Barros, Pedrosa, Melandri, Liberati, Hayden, Abe, McCoy, Checa and is a single victory off Criville.
If you get into the mindset of dismissing anyone who hasn't matched Rossi then there's going to be absolutely no point in you watching or following MotoGP.
Doors Man said:
and then faded away for whatever reason. beemer 5 i dont think he does deserve credit either after what he actually said. rocket pepper is right he simply grudgingly admitted that after 8 titles rossi was a worthwhile winner.
lol, what specifically in his mannerisms and delivery made you think it was 'grudgingly admitted'?Doors Man said:
what he should have said was that the best man won the title and that he had been outridden this season and would be back next year to try and get the title back. something along those lines?
Or how about he just dropped to his knees, unzipped Rossi's leathers and sucked on his balls for a bit? 
Edited by Rawwr on Monday 29th September 10:51
Jetl3on said:
97rsr said:
Jetl3on said:
y2blade said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbi...
ohh my heart bleeds for him
whingeing little TW@T
GO VALI
If memory serves correctly, Rossi either didnt race or gave up at Valencia 2007 due to an injury he sustained in qualifying, so whats the difference?ohh my heart bleeds for him
whingeing little TW@T
GO VALI
Makes me laugh how so called fans, can ridicule one of the best riders in motogp we have seen for years, from his flipping armchair.
I think the difference between Rossi and Stoners injury is that Rossi broke his hand then raced a day later at the back of the field where as Stoner has a painful wrist from a previous injury that means he can qualify in 2nd and finish on the podium, and perhaps with this fixed would of cleared off at the front? But I think the answer to that is obvious now.
There seems to be a consencus that Stoner/Ducati have made up this story as an excuse, despite the facts proving otherwise.
Rossi was injured and clearly couldnt ride the bike, but jumped on to protect his 2nd place, Oh what a HERO!! Stoner is injured, (nobody knew of this injury until recently), he is a WHINGER for mentioning it, questioning his integrity.
Logical?
Stoner is one of the most committed riders on the grid, of that there is no question.
Rawwr said:
Doors Man said:
ive only been watching bike racing a coupla years but how anyone can say stoner's a great rider when hes won so little is beyond me. ive took a look at the gp stats recently and a lot of people have done what stoner's done
Stats. Awesome. So how many riders in the last say, 10 years, have won the championship in their 2nd year?And winning so little? He's had more GP victories than Biaggi, Mamola, Capirossi, Gibernau, Roberts Jr, Barros, Pedrosa, Melandri, Liberati, Hayden, Abe, McCoy, Checa and is a single victory off Criville.
If you get into the mindset of dismissing anyone who hasn't matched Rossi then there's going to be absolutely no point in you watching or following MotoGP.
Doors Man said:
and then faded away for whatever reason. beemer 5 i dont think he does deserve credit either after what he actually said. rocket pepper is right he simply grudgingly admitted that after 8 titles rossi was a worthwhile winner.
lol, what specifically in his mannerisms and delivery made you think it was 'grudgingly admitted'?Doors Man said:
what he should have said was that the best man won the title and that he had been outridden this season and would be back next year to try and get the title back. something along those lines?
Or how about he just dropped to his knees, unzipped Rossi's leathers and sucked on his balls for a bit? Edited by Rawwr on Monday 29th September 10:51
You meant his wife do the sucking, dont want to add to the hearsay about his sexuality
97rsr said:
Jetl3on said:
97rsr said:
Jetl3on said:
y2blade said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbi...
ohh my heart bleeds for him
whingeing little TW@T
GO VALI
If memory serves correctly, Rossi either didnt race or gave up at Valencia 2007 due to an injury he sustained in qualifying, so whats the difference?ohh my heart bleeds for him
whingeing little TW@T
GO VALI
Makes me laugh how so called fans, can ridicule one of the best riders in motogp we have seen for years, from his flipping armchair.
I think the difference between Rossi and Stoners injury is that Rossi broke his hand then raced a day later at the back of the field where as Stoner has a painful wrist from a previous injury that means he can qualify in 2nd and finish on the podium, and perhaps with this fixed would of cleared off at the front? But I think the answer to that is obvious now.
There seems to be a consencus that Stoner/Ducati have made up this story as an excuse, despite the facts proving otherwise.
Rossi was injured and clearly couldnt ride the bike, but jumped on to protect his 2nd place, Oh what a HERO!! Stoner is injured, (nobody knew of this injury until recently), he is a WHINGER for mentioning it, questioning his integrity.
Logical?
Stoner is one of the most committed riders on the grid, of that there is no question.
Rawwr said:
97rsr said:
The gravity of the injury is the answer to your question, it is the difference between the two.
Do over a hundred 180mph braking runs with a fractured scaphoid and let me know how you get on.With MotoGP being faster and the brakes being carbon ceramic, the strains are higher and thus I think more riders will miss races because you need to be at 100% to cope.
Well, Rossi proves himself a worth champ once more
Casey put in a good ride and is extremely talented - no doubt. What I did find interesting though was that Motegi showed just how quick the Duke is with a light rider. As Randy was commenting, Casey could open up a gap with sheer acceleration, but Rossi would close it up on the brakes and in the corners - lending credence to the theory that the Duke is a more powerful package (lighter rider, better power to weight).
I'm not knocking Stoner for this, on the contrary, but to me it makes Rossi's victory even more impressive.
Roll on GP'09!
Casey put in a good ride and is extremely talented - no doubt. What I did find interesting though was that Motegi showed just how quick the Duke is with a light rider. As Randy was commenting, Casey could open up a gap with sheer acceleration, but Rossi would close it up on the brakes and in the corners - lending credence to the theory that the Duke is a more powerful package (lighter rider, better power to weight).
I'm not knocking Stoner for this, on the contrary, but to me it makes Rossi's victory even more impressive.
Roll on GP'09!
Stig said:
Well, Rossi proves himself a worth champ once more
Casey put in a good ride and is extremely talented - no doubt. What I did find interesting though was that Motegi showed just how quick the Duke is with a light rider. As Randy was commenting, Casey could open up a gap with sheer acceleration, but Rossi would close it up on the brakes and in the corners - lending credence to the theory that the Duke is a more powerful package (lighter rider, better power to weight).
I'm not knocking Stoner for this, on the contrary, but to me it makes Rossi's victory even more impressive.
Roll on GP'09!
Old news, the Ducati has always been the fastest bike on the grid since day one, that was the focus of the Ducati GP project. It won races but was not the finished article as it struggled at twistier tracks.Casey put in a good ride and is extremely talented - no doubt. What I did find interesting though was that Motegi showed just how quick the Duke is with a light rider. As Randy was commenting, Casey could open up a gap with sheer acceleration, but Rossi would close it up on the brakes and in the corners - lending credence to the theory that the Duke is a more powerful package (lighter rider, better power to weight).
I'm not knocking Stoner for this, on the contrary, but to me it makes Rossi's victory even more impressive.
Roll on GP'09!
The M1, if memory serves, was designed by Burgess to maximise Rossi incredible cornering ability, which they did.
The point being, fastest bike did not and does not win titles and you will come unstuck at certain tracks where top speed is not an issue.
Giving more credence to Stoners ability to win or compete at the front at most tracks on the calender.
Top speed was never in question until he won the title, so shouldnt be a factor now, (although it helps of course). The Ducati as far as the best bike on the grid, is behind the Yamaha and maybe equals the Honda, but next year we will see, with this crap one tyre rule coming into effect.
C8PPO said:
Jetl3on said:
with this crap one tyre rule coming into effect.
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!Level (tyre) playing field, Rossi for #9 next year??
Since when did Ducati ever run away from a fight?
Lets not start this level field debate, it will never be equal, the losers (Rossi and yamaha 2007) will want the same as Ducati when they pull the next ace card from under their sleeve, besides since when did Rossi require equal footing to win? Since Casey came along maybe? (JOKE, Dont start!!)
Score is Rossi 1, Stoner 1, bring it on.
Stig said:
Jetl3on said:
The point being, fastest bike did not and does not win titles and you will come unstuck at certain tracks where top speed is not an issue.
Giving more credence to Stoners ability to win or compete at the front at most tracks on the calender.
Not enough though eh Giving more credence to Stoners ability to win or compete at the front at most tracks on the calender.
True, not enough this year, to be fair the bike let us down this year, gave Rossi and Co too much of a lead, even without Casey mistakes it was a serious hill climb, anyone but Rossi and we would have been okay. But it shows promise for 2009. Dont get carried away with this title, it is on temporary loan to those pesky Japs.
Jetl3on said:
97rsr said:
Jetl3on said:
97rsr said:
Jetl3on said:
y2blade said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbi...
ohh my heart bleeds for him
whingeing little TW@T
GO VALI
If memory serves correctly, Rossi either didnt race or gave up at Valencia 2007 due to an injury he sustained in qualifying, so whats the difference?ohh my heart bleeds for him
whingeing little TW@T
GO VALI
Makes me laugh how so called fans, can ridicule one of the best riders in motogp we have seen for years, from his flipping armchair.
I think the difference between Rossi and Stoners injury is that Rossi broke his hand then raced a day later at the back of the field where as Stoner has a painful wrist from a previous injury that means he can qualify in 2nd and finish on the podium, and perhaps with this fixed would of cleared off at the front? But I think the answer to that is obvious now.
There seems to be a consencus that Stoner/Ducati have made up this story as an excuse, despite the facts proving otherwise.
Rossi was injured and clearly couldnt ride the bike, but jumped on to protect his 2nd place, Oh what a HERO!! Stoner is injured, (nobody knew of this injury until recently), he is a WHINGER for mentioning it, questioning his integrity.
Logical?
Stoner is one of the most committed riders on the grid, of that there is no question.
Jetl3on said:
C8PPO said:
Jetl3on said:
with this crap one tyre rule coming into effect.
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!Level (tyre) playing field, Rossi for #9 next year??
Since when did Ducati ever run away from a fight?
Lets not start this level field debate, it will never be equal, the losers (Rossi and yamaha 2007) will want the same as Ducati when they pull the next ace card from under their sleeve, besides since when did Rossi require equal footing to win? Since Casey came along maybe? (JOKE, Dont start!!)
Jetl3on said:
Score is Rossi 8, Stoner 1, bring it on.
EFA.HTH.
At the end of the day, everyone on the grid is a 'top shelf' rider. It isn't and shouldn't be The Rossi & Stoner Show. Rossi, Hayden and Stoner are all world champions and there are riders on the grid who haven't achieved anything anywhere near Hayden, let alone Stoner and let alone Rossi.
You follow a particular rider because you like something about their personality, their style or their achievements, but you follow MotoGP because you like the pinnacle of bike racing. You support your rider of choice and you want them to win, it shouldn't mean you want others to lose.
You follow a particular rider because you like something about their personality, their style or their achievements, but you follow MotoGP because you like the pinnacle of bike racing. You support your rider of choice and you want them to win, it shouldn't mean you want others to lose.
Rawwr said:
At the end of the day, everyone on the grid is a 'top shelf' rider. It isn't and shouldn't be The Rossi & Stoner Show. Rossi, Hayden and Stoner are all world champions and there are riders on the grid who haven't achieved anything anywhere near Hayden, let alone Stoner and let alone Rossi.
You follow a particular rider because you like something about their personality, their style or their achievements, but you follow MotoGP because you like the pinnacle of bike racing. You support your rider of choice and you want them to win, it shouldn't mean you want others to lose.
Well said!!!!You follow a particular rider because you like something about their personality, their style or their achievements, but you follow MotoGP because you like the pinnacle of bike racing. You support your rider of choice and you want them to win, it shouldn't mean you want others to lose.
Everyone knows that Hayden is crap
Jetl3on said:
C8PPO said:
Jetl3on said:
with this crap one tyre rule coming into effect.
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!Level (tyre) playing field, Rossi for #9 next year??
Since when did Ducati ever run away from a fight?
Lets not start this level field debate, it will never be equal, the losers (Rossi and yamaha 2007) will want the same as Ducati when they pull the next ace card from under their sleeve, besides since when did Rossi require equal footing to win? Since Casey came along maybe? (JOKE, Dont start!!)
Score is Rossi 1, Stoner 1, bring it on.
Jetl3on said:
Stig said:
Jetl3on said:
The point being, fastest bike did not and does not win titles and you will come unstuck at certain tracks where top speed is not an issue.
Giving more credence to Stoners ability to win or compete at the front at most tracks on the calender.
Not enough though eh Giving more credence to Stoners ability to win or compete at the front at most tracks on the calender.
True, not enough this year, to be fair the bike let us down this year, gave Rossi and Co too much of a lead, even without Casey mistakes it was a serious hill climb, anyone but Rossi and we would have been okay. But it shows promise for 2009. Dont get carried away with this title, it is on temporary loan to those pesky Japs.
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