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ajprice said:
I meant for live coverage, I watch ITV4 highlights too since it finished on BT sport.
I find highlights on ITV 4 perfectly adequate. I only really watch the main event anyway, & they show most of it. Not sure about the presenters mind.There's no way I would pay £10/month, let alone £30!
Biker 1 said:
ajprice said:
I meant for live coverage, I watch ITV4 highlights too since it finished on BT sport.
I find highlights on ITV 4 perfectly adequate. I only really watch the main event anyway, & they show most of it. Not sure about the presenters mind.There's no way I would pay £10/month, let alone £30!
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
I think we'll see some of the European rounds go. Nobody will really miss Valencia tbh, and does Aragon get many fans (even if I'd rather we dropped Jerez than there personally - huge crowds but the layout doesn't produce good racing).
I can also see Mugello or Misano going: the bikes are getting too fast for Mugello and tickets there are silly money. Misano isn't near Florence so less good for social media and celebs. However the government like it as it's always the week after the Italian schools go back and gets the resorts another week's income. Portimao was early this year, probably for similar reasons!
The problem Liberty will have is that a lot of new F1 destinations are street circuits. These are easy for fans but not easy to make safe for MotoGP.
As we discussed a few weeks ago, there's not many suitable tracks in USA (no, not Laguna Seca) either.
That's assuming liberty don't dumb down the safety regs so it opens up more American tracks.I can also see Mugello or Misano going: the bikes are getting too fast for Mugello and tickets there are silly money. Misano isn't near Florence so less good for social media and celebs. However the government like it as it's always the week after the Italian schools go back and gets the resorts another week's income. Portimao was early this year, probably for similar reasons!
The problem Liberty will have is that a lot of new F1 destinations are street circuits. These are easy for fans but not easy to make safe for MotoGP.
As we discussed a few weeks ago, there's not many suitable tracks in USA (no, not Laguna Seca) either.
FourWheelDrift said:
2027 : F1 and MotoGP combined race weekends.
I actually heard that is/was what they want and if this goes through I can imagine it will happen. To be fair I'd happily get some mates round, light the BBQ and put the MotoGP/F1 on in the pub shed, sounds like a good day to me
With this in the announcement it still feels like an April fools joke to me!
“ Liberty Media has confirmed Pirelli, the Italian brand responsible for the control tire in Formula One and in WorldSBK, will become the sole tire supplier for MotoGP, replacing French company Michelin who will be demoted to supplying the tires for the Dorna personnel golf carts seen in the MotoGP paddock. “
“ Liberty Media has confirmed Pirelli, the Italian brand responsible for the control tire in Formula One and in WorldSBK, will become the sole tire supplier for MotoGP, replacing French company Michelin who will be demoted to supplying the tires for the Dorna personnel golf carts seen in the MotoGP paddock. “
nigelpugh7 said:
With this in the announcement it still feels like an April fools joke to me!
“ Liberty Media has confirmed Pirelli, the Italian brand responsible for the control tire in Formula One and in WorldSBK, will become the sole tire supplier for MotoGP, replacing French company Michelin who will be demoted to supplying the tires for the Dorna personnel golf carts seen in the MotoGP paddock. “
I thought Hoosier were going to be the official supplier.“ Liberty Media has confirmed Pirelli, the Italian brand responsible for the control tire in Formula One and in WorldSBK, will become the sole tire supplier for MotoGP, replacing French company Michelin who will be demoted to supplying the tires for the Dorna personnel golf carts seen in the MotoGP paddock. “
Zarco said:
Liberty have actually bought a controlling stake in Dorna, and are keeping them (and the existing Dorna team) on board to manage it. So this might not be such a drastic change that some of the doom mongers are worrying about.
They are retaining them currently and given that some of the equity has probably been released by the management team, there’ll be all sorts of tax efficiency deals about continuing working there.Whether they stay longer term is a real debate, given Rossamondo’s appointment who is US in a company where everyone else in a senior role is Spanish. It needs a more diverse leadership reflective of the paddock, the fans and the potential business.
LM do allow a lot more content creation than Dorna do and that has helped build the brand. Dorna have been fiercely defensive of the IP rights for MGP and it’s being shown it isn’t the best way currently to generate interest beyond the die hard purist fans.
Oxley Bom podcast this week is a really good listen on this topic, with their regular finance guru on the pod discussing the potential deal.
There’s a lot more to come out of this yet. We’re discussing FTA/paywalls/content etc. however, LM have grown the equity value of F1 x4 and the teams x3.8.
We’ve got technical regs written by manufacturers and given the share LM have bought, we need to understand now if they have the same voting rights or does this change the balance of how the tech regs are set. 2027 is coming round quickly here ….
Also, given Dorna has a stable including other series and the deal has to get through competition authorities, what’s the outcome for WSB, where the racing is actually very good currently, but has an awful calendar and is a very diminished series versus MGP currently.
Lastly, there really aren’t any headline sponsors on the bikes currently, which has to change. Since the demise of tobacco sponsorship we’re missing real headline sponsors on factory bikes. LM have done a great job to bring in new sponsors for F1 and I hope it can do the same for MGP.
I see more positives than negatives at the moment. I reserve judgement for ticket prices at race tracks though ….
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
Unless you're Luke, riders dying is bad PR. However Pittsburgh is FIM Grade A which means it is already fit for MotoGP.
Pittsburgh international race complex ?Edited by Marquezs Stabilisers on Tuesday 2nd April 18:54
Wonder why american superbikes don't race there ?
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
egor110 said:
That's assuming liberty don't dumb down the safety regs so it opens up more American tracks.
Unless you're Luke, riders dying is bad PR. However Pittsburgh is FIM Grade A which means it is already fit for MotoGP.Edited by Marquezs Stabilisers on Tuesday 2nd April 18:54
Zarco said:
Yeah I've just listened to the Oxley Bonn pod. That was recorded before the announcement, but still very interesting.
I'm definitely seeing more positives than negatives. People just like to moan it seems.
Mat Oxley and David Emmett both think this is good news, those 2 are usually well worth taking notice offI'm definitely seeing more positives than negatives. People just like to moan it seems.
srob said:
I actually heard that is/was what they want and if this goes through I can imagine it will happen.
To be fair I'd happily get some mates round, light the BBQ and put the MotoGP/F1 on in the pub shed, sounds like a good day to me
It would reduce their revenues, and therefore obviously won't happenTo be fair I'd happily get some mates round, light the BBQ and put the MotoGP/F1 on in the pub shed, sounds like a good day to me
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
egor110 said:
That's assuming liberty don't dumb down the safety regs so it opens up more American tracks.
Unless you're Luke, riders dying is bad PR. However Pittsburgh is FIM Grade A which means it is already fit for MotoGP.Edited by Marquezs Stabilisers on Tuesday 2nd April 18:54
Overall I think the general consensus is this is good for the sport, Dorna do a good job of keeping things going and standing up to things (manufacturers and control ECU for example) when needed, but there is not much doubt that some new thinking in the promotion / content promotion will be a good thing
FredericRobinson said:
srob said:
I actually heard that is/was what they want and if this goes through I can imagine it will happen.
To be fair I'd happily get some mates round, light the BBQ and put the MotoGP/F1 on in the pub shed, sounds like a good day to me
It would reduce their revenues, and therefore obviously won't happenTo be fair I'd happily get some mates round, light the BBQ and put the MotoGP/F1 on in the pub shed, sounds like a good day to me
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