Moto GP 2024

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Marquezs Stabilisers

1,280 posts

62 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Turn7 said:
I think he may have been hit by the ban hammer again…
I came across a thread in the car racing section where he was on the verge of trolling...so sad, so sad, such a sad sad situation

FredericRobinson

3,780 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
I came across a thread in the car racing section where he was on the verge of trolling...so sad, so sad, such a sad sad situation
Only on the verge?

Those of us who follow bikes and sportscar racing get double the pain, but it's got peaceful again recently.

Far Cough

2,266 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Can you imagine F1 and a MotoGP round all in the same place on the same weekend........ There would be so much mickey taking about the fact that there was more overtaking in ONE lap of bike racing than the whole of the F1 race , it would be laughable !!!

ajprice

27,737 posts

197 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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There could be a lot more cross promotion and 'test' drives/rides. Alonso tried out a Honda a while back, Hamilton and Rossi swapped over, Rossi tested a Ferrari.

aeropilot

34,878 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Far Cough said:
Can you imagine F1 and a MotoGP round all in the same place on the same weekend........ There would be so much mickey taking about the fact that there was more overtaking in ONE lap of bike racing than the whole of the F1 race , it would be laughable !!!
Its a monumentally stupid idea and completely unworkable from a logistics pov....let alone the fact that not all F1 fans are bike racing fans and vice versa.

But, just from a logistics and track management pov its a ludicrous idea.


FourWheelDrift

88,697 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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The only way I can see it happen whilst maintaining all sessions for all classes would be a Thurs-Sun weekend to spread it out and cancel Saturday sprint races for MotoGP or F1. Sunday would be the sole race day for all main classes, Moto 3, Moto 2 and Moto GP starting at 9:30am, Moto 2 at 10:45 and MotoGP at 1pm. Then F1 from 3pm.

F2 or F3 could run on Fri/Sat maybe.

Could be held at Silverstone for the 2 pits complexes holding everything.

srob

11,649 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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I think it'll happen - it'll be a corporate wet dream.

It's perfectly doable, it won't be a series and it won't be a whole MotoGP or F1 weekend - it'll be the premier class of both and no support races. There are loads of tracks that host both, and anything is possible logistically.

Personally, I think it would be pretty entertaining to watch so I hope they do it!

FredericRobinson

3,780 posts

233 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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FourWheelDrift said:
The only way I can see it happen whilst maintaining all sessions for all classes would be a Thurs-Sun weekend to spread it out and cancel Saturday sprint races for MotoGP or F1. Sunday would be the sole race day for all main classes, Moto 3, Moto 2 and Moto GP starting at 9:30am, Moto 2 at 10:45 and MotoGP at 1pm. Then F1 from 3pm.

F2 or F3 could run on Fri/Sat maybe.

Could be held at Silverstone for the 2 pits complexes holding everything.
F1 sells everything out at Silverstone, tickets and corporate, so all that would do is lose all the revenues they get from the MotoGP race, not going to happen. Besides, to get this past the competition police who blocked it last time F1 and bike GPs were under the same ownership they’ll have to promise to keep the 2 series as far apart as possible

cirian75

4,266 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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They would make a MotoGP/F1 cars only event

No moto1 or moto2

FourWheelDrift

88,697 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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FredericRobinson said:
F1 sells everything out at Silverstone, tickets and corporate, so all that would do is lose all the revenues they get from the MotoGP race, not going to happen. Besides, to get this past the competition police who blocked it last time F1 and bike GPs were under the same ownership they’ll have to promise to keep the 2 series as far apart as possible
Plenty of space for more temporary stands.

Freakuk

3,187 posts

152 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Just won't happen, most circuits don't have the paddock space to host 2 different sets of events at the same time, some now don't have enough space to hold F1 or MotoGP because of the expanding number of races and hospitality units.

I also don't see why they would potentially lose revenue by reducing the number of events. Personally I wouldn't attend a MotoGP round if I had to miss several qualifying/races because F1 was squeezed in on the same day(s). And I'm sure there are plenty of F1 fans who have no interest in bikes also.


srob

11,649 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Freakuk said:
Just won't happen, most circuits don't have the paddock space to host 2 different sets of events at the same time, some now don't have enough space to hold F1 or MotoGP because of the expanding number of races and hospitality units.

I also don't see why they would potentially lose revenue by reducing the number of events. Personally I wouldn't attend a MotoGP round if I had to miss several qualifying/races because F1 was squeezed in on the same day(s). And I'm sure there are plenty of F1 fans who have no interest in bikes also.
You're not the target audience if you already attend though.

Freakuk

3,187 posts

152 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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srob said:
Freakuk said:
Just won't happen, most circuits don't have the paddock space to host 2 different sets of events at the same time, some now don't have enough space to hold F1 or MotoGP because of the expanding number of races and hospitality units.

I also don't see why they would potentially lose revenue by reducing the number of events. Personally I wouldn't attend a MotoGP round if I had to miss several qualifying/races because F1 was squeezed in on the same day(s). And I'm sure there are plenty of F1 fans who have no interest in bikes also.
You're not the target audience if you already attend though.
But I wouldn't be attending, I usually go to 2-3 MotoGP rounds per year currently, chuck F1 in the mix and I'm out.

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,280 posts

62 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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aeropilot said:
Its a monumentally stupid idea and completely unworkable from a logistics pov....let alone the fact that not all F1 fans are bike racing fans and vice versa.

But, just from a logistics and track management pov its a ludicrous idea.
Agree, I've no interest in Formula One, bar if someone offered me a shot in one of the cars I'd definitely be interested in that!

joema

2,655 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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It would cost silly money for a ticket. MotoGP is just about reasonable. Can see the excitement though.

FredericRobinson

3,780 posts

233 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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FourWheelDrift said:
Plenty of space for more temporary stands.
They’re not putting them up for F1

FourWheelDrift

88,697 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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FredericRobinson said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Plenty of space for more temporary stands.
They’re not putting them up for F1
2022 tickets sold out at 142,000 for the Sunday Race so they only have to cater for that, if they had more tickets to sell that included MotoGP I'm sure they would open more stands - https://www.racefans.net/2022/04/19/racefans-round...

But why 142,000 tickets, is that an imposed F1 limit, parking limit, local council limit?

aeropilot

34,878 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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FourWheelDrift said:
But why 142,000 tickets, is that an imposed F1 limit, parking limit, local council limit?
I would imagine the limit is related to H&S, traffic management, insurance and all sorts of other related factors that will mean an imposed limit on numbers.

hiccy18

2,713 posts

68 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Not even Fernando Alonso can make me watch F1 nowadays, whereas MM93 and PA31/37 very much can make me watch MotoGP. As noted I think only Silverstone could possibly run it, and I can only see scope for it as a special non-championship event; actually, as a one-off, with suitable supporting events and activities, I could see a "Festival of Circuit racing" being interesting, but it'd need to be in the summer so I have no idea how that could get the support of either paddock. Of course if it was US based, had a quarter million attendance and made the participants many spondooliks then it'd happen.

Anyway, what do I matter? I'm not female and neither am I under 24 so I'm not the target audience for LM. Call me pessimistic, but I don't see anything good coming out of this for me, plenty of potential for it to go the other way.

aeropilot

34,878 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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hiccy18 said:
Not even Fernando Alonso can make me watch F1 nowadays, whereas MM93 and PA31/37 very much can make me watch MotoGP.
Yep, I've not watched F1 since about 2017/18.....not even bothered to look up results, or anything, basically 'walked away' from it. Couldn't even tell you who drives for who anymore. Don't miss it in the slightest.

But, MotoGP and WSB I still follow as much as I can, despite no longer being able to ride because of medical reasons.