Bargain Crazy Thread
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BMbler said:
moanthebairns said:
how is it fraud? its stamped, it gives to the tests its went through
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/bell-m10
Personally i wouldn't have went near it, if you fail to do your research when buying something, especially something as important as a helmet you cant really be to pissed about it, especially when amazon are taking it back even after you went out a ride in it.
Fair buddy, fair, BUT the price of this particular "bargain" is not a matter of my personal finances- it is endangering others safety and life!http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/bell-m10
Personally i wouldn't have went near it, if you fail to do your research when buying something, especially something as important as a helmet you cant really be to pissed about it, especially when amazon are taking it back even after you went out a ride in it.
k IS IT ANY DIFFERNET FROM BUYING A NCAP 2 STAR stROEN SAXO....seriously, do I need to tell you i used to work as a lab tech to make you sit up and listen
that helmet has passed the minimum for it to be fit for sale in the UK, EU. It therefore isn't endangering other peoples safety and life. If you buy a 2 star ncap car its your fault if you have a crash and sustain an injury that a 5 star car would have saved you from, just like a helmet.
whilst it would be great if everything met the same standard, it just doesn't. Some designs are primitive, some are rushed to fill a void in there brand, some rushed so much that flaws occur and recalls and further R and D happens. For a man who has spent so long looking up specs im staggered that you didn't look at the sharp ratings.
Now before anyone goes, "ah but sharp is pish" its really not, ive read the paper prolapse got and from the test methods described and the way they perform them the are a bloody good insight and unbiased. Its by far the most comprehensive testing ive seen to date of helmets.
so i beg the question, why didn't you look at the sharp website and see the piss poor results, or if you did why did you choose to buy a helmet that performed so badly. its not a question of money.
research, this isn't the 90's anymore, there is a world of information online, i looked up the sharp ratings, reviews and the like before i bought mines.
s3fella said:
I haven't been able to follow anything you're going on about, but judging by the recurring crashes you've been having, that's probably no surprise. No helmet would have saved the clear damage you've received.
I got an m10 today and it looks fine to me. It all works. The paint is fine, 'gaps' look fine. And my review of it can be understood by most on here.
My review- fine.
Now I'm not saying yours is fine, clearly you're unhappy, so return it and get your money or a replacement.
Good luck with the rehab.
i was really struggling as well, but i thought it was cause i was watching the football and skipping a lot.I got an m10 today and it looks fine to me. It all works. The paint is fine, 'gaps' look fine. And my review of it can be understood by most on here.
My review- fine.
Now I'm not saying yours is fine, clearly you're unhappy, so return it and get your money or a replacement.
Good luck with the rehab.
his posts are harder to figure out than the Sudoku times
sorry but you looked and you seen a huge red impact zone, verging on a piss poor result and continued to buy it.
you bought it and it had 3 stars clearly displayed, it's your fault.
whilst I can understand your annoyance from the poor finish quality/damage to it etc, i simply cannot if you looked at the reviews and still bought it.
I mean you read the review, went hmm that's ste results but its BELL, fk it, its well cheap...
i could understand if you bought one in store on a impulse and then found out when you got home it offered as much protection as an egg carton but you read the review you chose to ignore it, its your fault.
just think yourself lucky amazon will take it back and refund you, use this to learn from.
its a bit like buying a holiday online after reading awful reviews on trip advisor then going there and finding its ste only to complain....fking hell i review everything except food...
you bought it and it had 3 stars clearly displayed, it's your fault.
whilst I can understand your annoyance from the poor finish quality/damage to it etc, i simply cannot if you looked at the reviews and still bought it.
I mean you read the review, went hmm that's s
te results but its BELL, fk it, its well cheap...i could understand if you bought one in store on a impulse and then found out when you got home it offered as much protection as an egg carton but you read the review you chose to ignore it, its your fault.
just think yourself lucky amazon will take it back and refund you, use this to learn from.
its a bit like buying a holiday online after reading awful reviews on trip advisor then going there and finding its s
te only to complain....fking hell i review everything except food...Porkis said:
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You're welcome, and boys, stop feeding the troll, and he'll go away
isn't that eh, car oil?Use voucher code OILS2014 to get the final price above
Link to oil - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Repsol-Elite-Evolution-Pow...
You're welcome, and boys, stop feeding the troll, and he'll go away
Mr2Mike said:
BMbler said:
I did look, but never expected such harsh reality...
I did, unfortunately never paid enough of attention
Would this be an accurate conclusion?I did, unfortunately never paid enough of attention
1) You bought something without doing any research.
2) You didn't like the quality of the product.
3) The supplier has refunded your money.
4) Despite being no worse off you continue to whine like a spoilt brat about something no one else gives a toss about.
Edited by moanthebairns on Thursday 10th July 11:45
Porkis said:
moanthebairns said:
Porkis said:
Repsol Elite Evolution Power 4 5W30 Engine Oil 5 Litres for just £14.30
Use voucher code OILS2014 to get the final price above
Link to oil - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Repsol-Elite-Evolution-Pow...
You're welcome, and boys, stop feeding the troll, and he'll go away
isn't that eh, car oil?Use voucher code OILS2014 to get the final price above
Link to oil - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Repsol-Elite-Evolution-Pow...
You're welcome, and boys, stop feeding the troll, and he'll go away
BMbler said:
Mr2Mike said:
Would this be an accurate conclusion?
1) You bought something without doing any research.
2) You didn't like the quality of the product.
3) The supplier has refunded your money.
4) Despite being no worse off you continue to whine like a spoilt brat about something no one else gives a toss about.
Only, if you'd had perspective of rider one or the other being scammed (fake Bell) purchase.1) You bought something without doing any research.
2) You didn't like the quality of the product.
3) The supplier has refunded your money.
4) Despite being no worse off you continue to whine like a spoilt brat about something no one else gives a toss about.
Considering shamble of a product- I do honestly regret, not finding more creative ways to expose problem on time...
Well, I thought id balance the playing field here, or whatever the saying is.
Got the Bell last week, rode to work with it on, no problems at all.
done a track day with it on, no problems at all, in fact superb, very light, even in the rain without a pinlock on and me breathing heavily (I have a cracking nose) I couldn't get it to steam up. I got on without a ACU sticker, although knockhill is rather relaxed.
Might be different in the winter but surpassed anything else I could have bought for £100. Even the wonder woman styling has grown on me.
many thanks you's for the link
Got the Bell last week, rode to work with it on, no problems at all.
done a track day with it on, no problems at all, in fact superb, very light, even in the rain without a pinlock on and me breathing heavily (I have a cracking nose) I couldn't get it to steam up. I got on without a ACU sticker, although knockhill is rather relaxed.
Might be different in the winter but surpassed anything else I could have bought for £100. Even the wonder woman styling has grown on me.
many thanks you's for the link
Bindhya:I understand that you have been charged for VAT.
Me:yes
but motorcycle helmets shouldn't be taxed
Bindhya:Please note that not all helmets are eligible for tax exempts.
Me:hmrc STATES THEY ARE
Motorcycle helmets
How do motorcycle helmets qualify for zero-rating? They are zero-rated when they comply with one of the following standards: • British Standard (BS) 6658:1985 (it will be marked with a British Standard 'kitemark'); or • UNECE Regulation 22.05 (it will be marked with a UN 'E' mark - the first two digits of the approval number will be '05'). However, BS 6658:1985 covers protective helmets for all vehicles. Helmets that comply with that standard which are not motorcycle helmets are standard-rated.
Bindhya:Protective helmets qualify for a VAT rate of 0%, when the following conditions are met:
The articles must be boots or helmets, and
They must be manufactured to the appropriate European or British standard, and
They must bear a mark indicating conformity with those standards, and
They must be for industrial use, and
They must not be supplied to persons for use by their employees.
Me:In the UK VAT is charged at the basic rate (currently 20%) or the zero rate, with a relatively small number of goods and services being charged VAT at a reduced rate of 5%.7
Schedule 8 to the Value Added Tax Act 1994 lists those supplies which are charged the zero rate. Group 16 to the Act deals with certain specified supplies of clothing and footwear: items for young children, protective boots and helmets for industrial use; and, helmets for cyclists & motorcyclists.8
Most zero rates were introduced when VAT itself was introduced in this country on 1 April 1973 – although this did not include the zero rate for bike helmets.9 In his 1974 Budget speech the then Chancellor, Dennis Healey, noted that “many hon. Members, on both sides of the House, have always argued that it is inexcusable to charge VAT on essential aids for the disabled … and on protective clothing, such as miners’ and quarrymen’s helmets and safety boots.” Mr Healey proposed introducing a zero rate on both classes of goods “as soon as possible.”10 The relevant changes to the schedule of zero rates were made by Order.11
In March 2001 a marginal change was made in the coverage of the zero rate for protective helmets, to extend it to cover cycle helmets for adults.12 Helmets for children were already zero-rated under the general provision for zero-rating children’s clothes and shoes. In the November 2000 Pre-Budget Report the Labour Government had announced it would “[remove] VAT from the purchase of cycle helmets with effect from 1 April 2001 to encourage road safety and encourage cycle use,” as part of its wider efforts to promote green travel.13
Guidance on the scope of the zero rate is published online – and this explains how motorcycle helmets may qualify for VAT relief:
you are quoting your terms not the hmrcs
Bindhya:I can understand that hmrcs stated like that.
But as per out policies only if the helmets comes under the above conditions the VAT will be 0%.
Me:you show a breakdown detailing vat
you have charged me vat on top of a product that shouldn't be
this is illegal
failure to return my vat will result in me making a formal complaint and then a complaint to the hmrc via my high priced new York lawyer
I have a invoice which clearly states vat
again this isn't included on helmets
Bindhya:I've checked and see that the helmet is listed under Automotive Parts and Accessories, and it is not listed under Helmets so you will be charged for the VAT.
Me:doesn't matter where it is listed
its a motorcycle helmet
I could put myself on uniform dating as a 6 ft 7 hunky fireman it doesn't make me one
Bindhya:Only if the item is listed under helmets you will not be charged for the VAT.
Me:according to who
so what is it? its a helmet it carries certification to say its a helmet
if you continue with this flimsy excuse I will be forced to take legal action as you're clearly trying to brush me off here.
You're now reconnected with Bindhya.
Me: Motorbikes, Accessories & Parts
›
Protective Clothing
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Helmets
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Full Face Helmets
that is the link
that is your link not mines
you are admitting its ppe stating its a helmet
please do not attempt to pull the wool over my eyes with such a flimsy excuse otherwise ill call in the high priced new York lawyer
rat840771 said:
damn I just bought a sj4000. Should be ok for the money. also 3 year warranty!
rat840771 said:
moanthebairns said:
rat840771 said:
damn I just bought a sj4000. Should be ok for the money. also 3 year warranty!
don't know, not got it yet, ill need to try it out.
only thing with the aldi one is spares might be hard to get, the battery time on these cameras will be about 70 minutes, so if you wanted a spare etc then might be hard to get.
how did you find it, its not coming up in the special buy bits only your link. Are you sure its not discontinued
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