The "official" Knockhill track day thread 2014

The "official" Knockhill track day thread 2014

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moanthebairns

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Saturday 12th July 2014
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how did you find it In reverse gwm?

shame the novices only got 3 laps the first session, a bit pants, that said our first section was cut short due to your mates engine pissing its guts everywhere

Classic knockhill with the weather, rain in the air, a dry session then damp/grease, then dry, then damp, then soaking

moanthebairns

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Saturday 12th July 2014
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gwm said:
The hairpin took some getting used to, that's for sure. But overall liked it, a lot more of the track was falling away from you, so really down to confidence more than anything to stay on it and brake late. The last session the track was actually really dry, I thought it'd be much greasier.
I fking loved the hairpin, it was the up hill sections I didn't like, I struggled physically with them, i need to beef up or at least start exercising.

still not decided on it, 2 greasy and 1 wet session wasn't enough time for me to properly learn the track

It kept changing, no idea how davie managed it on his first track day so quick, he must be a natural.

moanthebairns

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Sunday 13th July 2014
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moanthebairns

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Sunday 13th July 2014
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gwm said:
I must not go fast enough to notice the greasy-ness then, felt super dry to me most of the day. That's on the Pirelli Angel tyres.
first session was fine it was session 2 and 3 started to rain, same with 4 till it pissed it down.

as davie says you were really lucky. it dried for yous, the advance group got the worst of it

moanthebairns

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Sunday 13th July 2014
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbZ_3KA81-c

what camera are you using in your video davie

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Try riding a 600 around knockhill though. A lot of the track bikes were 600’s so you’re going to past them on the straight very few people will overtake in the corners in novice as where in inters they bloody will, there was a track nsr 400 out there and that guy was mullering people in the corners. Me and prolapse watched from the hairpin for a few sessions.

The inters is mainly made up of litre bikes, I was stuck behind a few for laps on end in the corners right up their chuff, I’d come out on to the straights with more speed pull level then they would fk off in front only to start it all over again for another lap.

Id maybe give it another novice section then move up if you find it too slow Davie especially if it’s the right way around, I normally run mid to top pack (on a good day for me and a st day for everyone else) in the inters in the normal direction, Saturday I was in the bottom section whilst I was learning the track, there was only about 5 or 6 other riders slower than me, that said speaking to a few, a lot had done a few session in reverse direction and knew the track. But do you really want to learn a new track whilst being flung into inters after 45 minutes track time.

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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why all the rear wheel locking!?

are you using rear brake? or not rev matching and banging it down too much

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Bmw, do a big weekend one at the start of the season but that's passed. The only other days they do are BMW only nights, 2 hour open pit, no use to you.

Ducati also do nights, mainly a Friday night, again 2 hour open pit lane, not worth your trek up as you only really get 40-60 minutes track time again no use.

I've moved away from doing these "track days" 5 of the 8 "track days" ive had have been these 2 hour open sessions or a morning, you cant really learn the track in that time or progress much. The 3 full day ones I've had I learned so much more and tend to have less "rude" riding as people aren't in as much of a rush if they have all day.

The only real session one coming up is the Niall Mackenzie day in a week or so, that's the reverse direction and its a novice/inters or inters/advance going out every 20 minutes. It is dear for what it is though, £225 is too steep IMO but if you fancy it PM and I can give you a code for 10 per cent off.

Failing that you will need to book up an open pit lane day, again I tend to avoid these, I'm no where near some of the guys in the advanced group yet and get frustrated behind some novices. There really is too much of a variety on a track some are doing in 54 seconds whilst others 1:14. Also again, its £170-190 for the day, which to be honest I don't think knockhill is worth but hey its the only circuit for miles.

I think there is 2 "sessions" days left this year, a bargain at like £95 but in September when it's a bit hit or miss. For some reason they don't run these as often as the open pit lane, which is a shame because I would be up much more often for these, 20 minutes on then a 40 minute gap is just right for me.

I found the reverse a bh to learn, the normal way wasn't so bad but the track is meant to be ran that way. After 4 sessions I just felt like I was starting to get know it, though some like Davie had it mastered by then.

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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George29 said:
I looked at the sessioned day in September but am racing at Mallory that weekend. I might do the open pitlane on the 4th of August then. Don't want to do reverse circuit as the main reason I'm going is for the first corner!

Is anyone from here booked on to that day?
http://trackdays.knockhill.com/trackday.php

theres one on the 26th of july that's a full day with sessions

Get what your saying, duffus isn't the same going up hill. If I was to pick id always pick normal way around

moanthebairns

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George29 said:
Am busy on 26th else I would be on it frown
like wise, for some reason they never have sunday sessions

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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As long as you had fun that's the main thing. Its not about how fast you went or how many people you passed its about how much fun you had.

i'm just playing at it just now and for a guy on a budget that's been riding only a few years, only done a few trackdays and on a stock bike with road tyres im having a hoot, I'm by no means the quickest out there, but im progressing each time and learning more.

its only funds that prohibit me from going more and progressing as id like.

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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think im done with knockhill for the time being

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Davie_GLA said:
That's me all booked up.

And there is irony in the started of this thread being done with Knockhill biggrin
id book up for Saturday but the football season starts.

don't think knockhill is worth £170-200

been looking at prices for days down south with van hire etc think ill just go down south even if its myself

if anyone fancies it, been looking at the middle of August for a trip down south

£120 for van £100 for fuel
drive down Tuesday night, oulton on the Wednesday full day £150
drive to cadwell at night
Wednesday cadwell £99
Wednesday back home

with another body your looking at £350 ish for everything bar food and fuel for your track days. I of course have missed out accommodation which will be the back of the van or outside if its nice. I'm not giving that lenny henry anymore money.

Edited by moanthebairns on Monday 14th July 17:45

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Davie_GLA said:
£95 for the 26th plus a few quid for fuel.
yeah and that's the only one really this year rest are £170

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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crofts only 3 hours away so yeah not too bad.

ill look into croft, I want to maybe do two while im there just so im not splashing out £300 for van hire and petrol for one day.

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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cant do the 12th just checked that's one of my 2 court dates that month, I have to be a witness for some fife that bricked our bus 2 years ago!!

ill fire up a date when I book up if your there as well I'll give you a shout.

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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theshrew said:
Just a thought MTB before you rent a van work out how your going to strap the bike down. Some vans might be lined others might not etc worth thinking about.
lined as in mdf on the floor?

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
moanthebairns said:
crofts only 3 hours away so yeah not too bad.

ill look into croft, I want to maybe do two while im there just so im not splashing out £300 for van hire and petrol for one day.
That mad Jock McKeen is coming down on the 29th, I reckon you should come down and kick his arse.
im pretty sure I could kick his arse, however he'd be much quicker on a bike than me.

moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Falkirk, theres only really one van hire place, problem is for an away track day its a 3 day hire even if I could drive it in a day and back


moanthebairns

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
moanthebairns said:
im pretty sure I could kick his arse, however he'd be much quicker on a bike than me.
I wouldn't fancy my chances either way.

hehe
the 29th oh july could be ok actually

how's he getting there and back? if he's going himself I could mooch a lift and even give him food tokens and ginger bottles towards his costs.