Stoner retires
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Maybe he'll do a Mamola/Hoffman/Parrish and become a commentator? Could you imagine Stoner's personality applied to interview technique?
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "Bullsh*t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: "
"
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "Bullsh*t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: "
"Rawwr said:
Maybe he'll do a Mamola/Hoffman/Parrish and become a commentator? Could you imagine Stoner's personality applied to interview technique?
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "B*lls
t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: ""
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "B*lls
t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."Rossi: "
"
-Pete- said:
eah, I see your point. I was a big fan of Colin in WSBK, and have been hugely disappointed by his MotoGP career. But his 'excuses' came from someone who needed... well... excuses. But Casey doesn't, what's he got to explain, apart from the dietary problem? But yes, Colin and Valentino and, well to be honest all of them have Charisma, and Casey doesn't. I doubt if it stops him sleeping though.
Or maybe it does? He doesn't seem to be happy with his lot, despite being a proven winner.
I don't think it's a case of happy or unhappy. I think it's just an unabashed honesty. Or maybe it does? He doesn't seem to be happy with his lot, despite being a proven winner.
chrisga said:
Anyone else follow @sofaracer on twitter. I nearly spit my dinner all over the keyboard....
"In a Motorhome in a quiet corner of the paddock. Alberto Puig, in a black leather chair, smiles as he strokes a white cat"
That had me choking on a glass of water when I read it earlier. I have really enjoyed sofaracer's coverage of the Stoner retirement announcement. From the criminal mastermind that is Alzamora to his mourning the loss of Stoner's wife from the paddock, altogether some top quality bike humour."In a Motorhome in a quiet corner of the paddock. Alberto Puig, in a black leather chair, smiles as he strokes a white cat"
Rawwr said:
Maybe he'll do a Mamola/Hoffman/Parrish and become a commentator? Could you imagine Stoner's personality applied to interview technique?
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "Bullsh*t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: ""
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "Bullsh*t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: "
"
This PLEASE
Rawwr said:
Maybe he'll do a Mamola/Hoffman/Parrish and become a commentator? Could you imagine Stoner's personality applied to interview technique?
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "Bullsh*t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: ""
[waveylineswaveylineswaveylines]
MotoGP 2013. Post-race press conference. Laguna Seca.
Stoner: "So, Valentino, how do you think the race went?"
Rossi: "It was good, no? I had lot of fun and this is important for me."
Stoner: "But you finished 9th? That's really not where you wanted to be."
Rossi: "Yes, but I feel now I have more feeling with the bike."
Stoner: "Bullsh*t. You were clearly pussying around in corner exits. You could've opened the throttle a lot earlier on T3 exit. I think you could've done better. You should be ashamed."
Rossi: "
"
You missed FAR too many opportunities to add a "For sure......."
(Clue: approximately 6
)krissstephen said:
He's a bike racer, it's his job, the fact that it's the "dream" job for forumites alike, it's still his job. His "whinging" is honesty and telling it like it is, win or lose, he's the same "yeah we won, but we could have gone faster".
Is Rossi now just a whinger? I haven't heard him say anthing positive about the Ducati.
If you go onto the General Motorsport forum you'll find people saying the exact same things about Kimi Raikkonen, he doesn't give a st about the politicis, advertising and other stuff that goes on, he just likes to drive/ride, and do it fast. Even when it's a podium unless it's a win, it's just first loser.
Rossi's a bit of a whinger now yes, but you also get the sense that even at his lowest point he GENUINELY enjoys riding the bike, unlike Stoner for whom its just a job and who whinges ALL the time. Even now, leaving MGP he is fookin whinin, why can't he leave with grace and positivity? Is Rossi now just a whinger? I haven't heard him say anthing positive about the Ducati.
If you go onto the General Motorsport forum you'll find people saying the exact same things about Kimi Raikkonen, he doesn't give a s
t about the politicis, advertising and other stuff that goes on, he just likes to drive/ride, and do it fast. Even when it's a podium unless it's a win, it's just first loser.I like Stoner mind, and am sad to see him go because he was like a "heel" in wrestling (fake) and provided a lot of interest. Biaggi wasn't that 'nice' of a guy either but he certainly was a character.
And most of us aren't interested in mere competence unless its something like the IOM TT which is so amazing that riders like McGuinness or Hutchinson don't need to be 'interesting' - their very job is interesting enough, unlike the rather safe parade of bikes/cars that is F1 or MGP
Dare2Fail said:
chrisga said:
Anyone else follow @sofaracer on twitter. I nearly spit my dinner all over the keyboard....
"In a Motorhome in a quiet corner of the paddock. Alberto Puig, in a black leather chair, smiles as he strokes a white cat"
That had me choking on a glass of water when I read it earlier. I have really enjoyed sofaracer's coverage of the Stoner retirement announcement. From the criminal mastermind that is Alzamora to his mourning the loss of Stoner's wife from the paddock, altogether some top quality bike humour."In a Motorhome in a quiet corner of the paddock. Alberto Puig, in a black leather chair, smiles as he strokes a white cat"
@sofaracer "BREAKING: Pedrosa doubtful for FP1, sore neck. HRC hotly deny he landed awkwardly doing back-flips on his bed last night."
@sofaracer "And they say he has no sense of humour. Casey, aware that every guy in MotoGP wants to ride it, names his RCV 'Lauren' for Le Mans"
It seems to me that some racers often lose their edge or, in CS' case, decide to pack up after having a kid or having more. Capirossi seemed to lose it, Edwards slipped further back, Kiyonari in BSB did but had other issues as well. I'm sure there are more.
The difference between most of the above & Casey is that they still carried on, which to me, is at least a mark of their desire & dedication to the sport.
Of course Rossi has never married or had a kid & is still battling:
p.s. Mr Bluequay- you did for get the other stupendous winning Ducati ride in somebody other than Stoner's hands - that of Troy Bayliss. Another proper racer.
The difference between most of the above & Casey is that they still carried on, which to me, is at least a mark of their desire & dedication to the sport.
Of course Rossi has never married or had a kid & is still battling
:p.s. Mr Bluequay- you did for get the other stupendous winning Ducati ride in somebody other than Stoner's hands - that of Troy Bayliss. Another proper racer.
Edited by sprinter1050 on Friday 18th May 09:21
Bike racing is a job for Stoner. I mean, his passion when not racing? Fishing 
He is a damn talented rider, but his demeanour tells you everything about the man he really is: a laid back Aussie who prefers shrimp on the barbie and fishing out back. I have never thought he really respected the political entourage in the paddock - hence his moaning/look-at-me/tells it as he sees it approach, and everyone has been critical of him. He is an exceptionally talented bike rider who arguably knows how to maximise the modern bikes and electronics, but Stoner will never be great.
Rossi is have a terrible time this year, especially after Simmo's death. IMHO, he should have retired then. But racing is in Rossi's blood - when he is not bike racing, he is racing Ferraris. Or he is racing motocross in the offseason - basically, a true petrolhead. He lives, eats, breathes motorsport, understands the fans, and respects the political entourage that funds racing. That is why the fans love him. VR is still the GOAT.
He is a damn talented rider, but his demeanour tells you everything about the man he really is: a laid back Aussie who prefers shrimp on the barbie and fishing out back. I have never thought he really respected the political entourage in the paddock - hence his moaning/look-at-me/tells it as he sees it approach, and everyone has been critical of him. He is an exceptionally talented bike rider who arguably knows how to maximise the modern bikes and electronics, but Stoner will never be great. Rossi is have a terrible time this year, especially after Simmo's death. IMHO, he should have retired then. But racing is in Rossi's blood - when he is not bike racing, he is racing Ferraris. Or he is racing motocross in the offseason - basically, a true petrolhead. He lives, eats, breathes motorsport, understands the fans, and respects the political entourage that funds racing. That is why the fans love him. VR is still the GOAT.
sprinter1050 said:
It seems to me that some racers often lose their edge or, in CS' case, decide to pack up after having a kid or having more. Capirossi seemed to lose it, Edwards slipped further back, Kiyonari in BSB did but had other issues as well. I'm sure there are more.
The difference between most of the above & Casey is that they still carried on, which to me, is at least a mark of their desire & dedication to the sport.
Of course Rossi has never married or had a kid & is still battling:
p.s. Mr Bluequay- you did for get the other stupendous winning Ducati ride in somebody other than Stoner's hands - that of Troy Bayliss. Another proper racer.
Nah I didn't!! that was in 2006 on the 990CC Ducati, lots of people were able to ride that bike, Caparossi, Gibernau and of course Bayliss. Nobody else could ride the 800.The difference between most of the above & Casey is that they still carried on, which to me, is at least a mark of their desire & dedication to the sport.
Of course Rossi has never married or had a kid & is still battling
:p.s. Mr Bluequay- you did for get the other stupendous winning Ducati ride in somebody other than Stoner's hands - that of Troy Bayliss. Another proper racer.
Edited by sprinter1050 on Friday 18th May 09:21
I'm no Stoner fan though I admire his talent, what i'm going to miss is the competition at the front. Lorenzo and Pedrosa 20 secs ahead of the field, with Lorenzo winning 2 out of each 3 doesn't do it for me. I can't see Rossi getting back to that level even if he gets the HRC next year.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 18th May 10:31
Why is it a bad thing that Stoner is not as committed to 'racing in any form' as some of the others?
He's got to be one of the best, if not the best rider in recent years so who cares what he's like off the bike? It's arguable that his achievements are all the more impressive if he'd rather be off fishing!
Is it because it's frustrating to see someone not be so bothered about a talent lots would kill to possess? Or do you have to be a 'real racer' somehow, to get respect?
I'm ambivalent toward him btw, I prefer Rossi but reckon he should have retired too. In fact how annoyed nut Rossi be? Stoner makes the Duc work, then goes and kills on the Honda and fks off before Rossi gets another crack 
genius!
He's got to be one of the best, if not the best rider in recent years so who cares what he's like off the bike? It's arguable that his achievements are all the more impressive if he'd rather be off fishing!
Is it because it's frustrating to see someone not be so bothered about a talent lots would kill to possess? Or do you have to be a 'real racer' somehow, to get respect?
I'm ambivalent toward him btw, I prefer Rossi but reckon he should have retired too. In fact how annoyed nut Rossi be? Stoner makes the Duc work, then goes and kills on the Honda and f
ks off before Rossi gets another crack genius!Disastrous said:
Why is it a bad thing that Stoner is not as committed to 'racing in any form' as some of the others?
He's got to be one of the best, if not the best rider in recent years so who cares what he's like off the bike? It's arguable that his achievements are all the more impressive if he'd rather be off fishing!
Is it because it's frustrating to see someone not be so bothered about a talent lots would kill to possess? Or do you have to be a 'real racer' somehow, to get respect?
I'm ambivalent toward him btw, I prefer Rossi but reckon he should have retired too. In fact how annoyed nut Rossi be? Stoner makes the Duc work, then goes and kills on the Honda and fks off before Rossi gets another crack genius!
When voting for the fan favourite on the racing grid, it is more than just where you end up on the podium. Stoner is fast and talented, yes, we all give him that. But that's about where it ends imho.He's got to be one of the best, if not the best rider in recent years so who cares what he's like off the bike? It's arguable that his achievements are all the more impressive if he'd rather be off fishing!
Is it because it's frustrating to see someone not be so bothered about a talent lots would kill to possess? Or do you have to be a 'real racer' somehow, to get respect?
I'm ambivalent toward him btw, I prefer Rossi but reckon he should have retired too. In fact how annoyed nut Rossi be? Stoner makes the Duc work, then goes and kills on the Honda and f
ks off before Rossi gets another crack genius!Well I won't miss Stoner the man. He's nothing but a moaning little Aussie. But I will miss watching someone who can hang off a bike and tourture the hell out of it in a way I and most others could only dream of. You've got to admire him for that.
It must have been hard for an Aussie to spend all those years as a nomad but it has reaped the rewards. You can understand the retirement. I would retire to the sun with a large bank balance and beautiful wife.
It will be fun watching the musical chairs. My reckoning is that Pedrobot would have definately been on the way out if Stoner was staying. Can he survive? Honda will be ruthless..
It must have been hard for an Aussie to spend all those years as a nomad but it has reaped the rewards. You can understand the retirement. I would retire to the sun with a large bank balance and beautiful wife.
It will be fun watching the musical chairs. My reckoning is that Pedrobot would have definately been on the way out if Stoner was staying. Can he survive? Honda will be ruthless..
spareparts said:
When voting for the fan favourite on the racing grid, it is more than just where you end up on the podium. Stoner is fast and talented, yes, we all give him that. But that's about where it ends imho.
The more I hear this kid of rubbish the more i'm warming to Stoner. It's not a popularity contest, it's a motor race. Winning is what matters, fans favourite is something for the losers to aspire to, or another way to increase the size of their bank accounts. Lorenzo\Rossi's winning antics weren't because they're "fun" guys, it's PR all designed to increase the bottom line. Bluequay said:
spareparts said:
When voting for the fan favourite on the racing grid, it is more than just where you end up on the podium. Stoner is fast and talented, yes, we all give him that. But that's about where it ends imho.
The more I hear this kid of rubbish the more i'm warming to Stoner. It's not a popularity contest, it's a motor race. Winning is what matters, fans favourite is something for the losers to aspire to, or another way to increase the size of their bank accounts. Lorenzo\Rossi's winning antics weren't because they're "fun" guys, it's PR all designed to increase the bottom line. Schuey for many years was certainly the first to cross the finish line the most times, but is he the greatest? Many regard the likes of Senna ahead...
Shame one of the biggest talents on two wheels is hanging up his boots, an amazing raw talent there's no doubt and with a few more titles to win yet seems crazy but if you're not enjoying something for whatever reason why continue.
He's lucky he's got to the top of his game earnt millions and can hang up his leathers now, what a way to do it, how many of us wouldn't love to be able to have cash in the bank you can live on for the rest of your life at 26?
However, I met him in his UK 125 days at Oulton, and he just didn't seem very personable then! Wind the clock forward to 2007 and his championship winning year on the GP07, I was at the Ducati GP dinner at Donington and who didn't show up? He doesn't care about the sport or his fans.
As a rider I'll miss him, as a person close the door on the way out.
He's lucky he's got to the top of his game earnt millions and can hang up his leathers now, what a way to do it, how many of us wouldn't love to be able to have cash in the bank you can live on for the rest of your life at 26?
However, I met him in his UK 125 days at Oulton, and he just didn't seem very personable then! Wind the clock forward to 2007 and his championship winning year on the GP07, I was at the Ducati GP dinner at Donington and who didn't show up? He doesn't care about the sport or his fans.
As a rider I'll miss him, as a person close the door on the way out.
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