1971 super bike
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dinkel

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Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Monster bike:

Munch Mammut - rarely seen NSU car engine powered lump of bike. This is a 1971.


1.2 litre NSU car-engine ... Who said a bike-engined car was a good idea? About 100 brake (think Prinz TT).


Pretty it is not. Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


I'd call this most impressive.


Stopping power ala 1971.


Some had one, this has two Weber 40s.


The owner - bought this in 1972 - is impressive too.


Cruiser. He mentioned the weight: 340 kgs . . .

Rick448

1,708 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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I seem to remember this being in Top Trumps.

aeropilot

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253 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Rick448 said:
I seem to remember this being in Top Trumps.
yes

laugh

srob

12,439 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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I remember them from Top Trumps too!

They're worth a fortune bow I believe. Brough Superior also did a car engined bike in the early 1930s. It had an Austin 7 engine and it had twin rear wheels. Think only one or two were built and unsuprisngly, they were on sidecars smile

Fleegle

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202 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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s3fella

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213 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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I saw one at the TT in 1976. It was ace!

Hooli

32,278 posts

226 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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srob said:
I remember them from Top Trumps too!

They're worth a fortune bow I believe. Brough Superior also did a car engined bike in the early 1930s. It had an Austin 7 engine and it had twin rear wheels. Think only one or two were built and unsuprisngly, they were on sidecars smile
That's what that was all about, I saw one at the NMM but never knew what it was.

sprinter1050

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253 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Mamut- German for Mammoth I recall.

Utterly appropriate

LordFlathead

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284 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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Hell yeah! What a cracking find I'd love one of those. Bet it's a heavy bugger though yes

bimsb6

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247 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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I saw one at the bmf show many years back

Benni

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237 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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I visited the Münch "factory" back in 1976, it was awesome.
Basically these bikes were factory customs, almost every one was different and biult to owner´s specs.
4 Megaphones, Kugelfischer injection, different tank shape, double disc brakes, no problem.
340 Kg is hefty, in order to save weight the rear wheel, fender/seat unit,
swingarm (with enclosed chain in oil bath) were done in electron cast metal.
The double headlamp unit was from the engine donor car, nice touch.
Friedel Münch was , like so many small fabricators, a great engineer but a poor salesman,
had a stroke in the 90s but is still alive, a true motorcycle legend.

bass gt3

10,654 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Apparently Friedel took his design inspiration from his brother Edvards' latest work


The Scream...



RemaL

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260 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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First I have seen about this bike and very interesting idea for a bike engine

dinkel

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Thursday 20th June 2013
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LordFlathead said:
Hell yeah! What a cracking find I'd love one of those. Bet it's a heavy bugger though yes
340 kgs . . .

sprinter1050

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253 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Benni said:
The double headlamp unit was from the engine donor car, nice touch.
Friedel Münch was , like so many small fabricators, a great engineer but a poor salesman,
had a stroke in the 90s but is still alive, a true motorcycle legend.
The one above has a single headlamp but it does look like the entire rear end came off the car though ! yuck

p.s. I like the obligatory fag on too smile

spoodler

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181 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Cracking - a friend of mine has one hidden away somewhere supposedly, tho' I've never seen it.

There were a few car engine bikes (other then the obvious V8s) produced when small capacity producers wanted big easily available engines back in the seventies. There were some rather trick Hillman Imp based specials, I remember visiting Evesham Motorcycles back in the early eighties and they had an Italian take on the above, name escapes me at the moment but a serious factory effort, powered by the Fiat 127 engine - a real monster that still had the car type "H" change gearbox and weighed 950lbs (400+kgs).

The daddy tho' had to be the Amazonia - VW Beetle based and if I remember correctly produced for some third world Police/security forces... poor sods.

Hooli

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226 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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dinkel said:
LordFlathead said:
Hell yeah! What a cracking find I'd love one of those. Bet it's a heavy bugger though yes
340 kgs . . .
Like a loaded Pan then, but I bet this has a lower CoG.

bimsb6

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247 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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spoodler said:
Cracking - a friend of mine has one hidden away somewhere supposedly, tho' I've never seen it.

There were a few car engine bikes (other then the obvious V8s) produced when small capacity producers wanted big easily available engines back in the seventies. There were some rather trick Hillman Imp based specials, I remember visiting Evesham Motorcycles back in the early eighties and they had an Italian take on the above, name escapes me at the moment but a serious factory effort, powered by the Fiat 127 engine - a real monster that still had the car type "H" change gearbox and weighed 950lbs (400+kgs).

The daddy tho' had to be the Amazonia - VW Beetle based and if I remember correctly produced for some third world Police/security forces... poor sods.
Made in brazil , which bike described it as " something they would never recommend anybody to buy" Amazonas btw

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Custom%20Bi...

Edited by bimsb6 on Friday 21st June 15:57

gareth_r

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263 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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spoodler said:
... I remember visiting Evesham Motorcycles back in the early eighties and they had an Italian take on the above, name escapes me at the moment but a serious factory effort, powered by the Fiat 127 engine - a real monster that still had the car type "H" change gearbox and weighed 950lbs (400+kgs)....
Moto Shifty. A nasty collision between a FIAT and a Laverda.

Also the BFG, a French effort with the Citroen GS flat-four.

dinkel

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Wednesday 26th June 2013
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