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y2blade said:
let me get this straight you have a FULL DRIVER (car license) and CBT only!!!!!!
Actually, I don't have CBT yet, taking it next week. Not sure why that seems so strange.I had motorbikes about 25 years ago, never took my test (should have done, but hardly anyone did then). Passed my driving test when I was 19 and have driven cars since. Now thinking about getting a bike just for fun, so would take my CBT. Am I so strange?
[quote]Ok, so you don't even have a CBT...which is the minimum requirement for even riding anything between 50cc and 125cc on the road....I wonder why you can't get a test ride???? Seems crazy 
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No, you did misunderstand this bit. I didn't want to test ride any bikes BEFORE I had my CBT, I was just browsing. I asked him if I could come back and try the "learner legal" 125cc bikes ONCE I had got my CBT. He said no I couldn't. He would happily sell me one, but wouldn't let me try it first.
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No, you did misunderstand this bit. I didn't want to test ride any bikes BEFORE I had my CBT, I was just browsing. I asked him if I could come back and try the "learner legal" 125cc bikes ONCE I had got my CBT. He said no I couldn't. He would happily sell me one, but wouldn't let me try it first.
Edited by Cold Hans on Monday 27th October 21:33
Edited by Cold Hans on Monday 27th October 21:34
Ace-T said:
Cold Hans said:
Ace-T said:
CH, you do realise that if you are given a CBT cert it only allows you to ride a bike up to 125cc/11bhp with L plates for 2 years don't you?
Yes, I do realise that. I only want to test ride 125 bikes which I can buy and ride with CBT cert (the "learner legal" bikes).It's what I did before I got my 125 (CBR125R) (though not the previous experience!) and I thought it was a great little bike. Did the same for the SV too and I absolutely love it. All IMHO of course
Trace
Edited by Ace-T on Monday 27th October 21:36
However (shout me down here) this does seem wrong to me. OK dealers have to have insurance-I get that.
But-I have never bought a car without driving it. I have never bought a cycle without riding it. If I have a certificate which says I can buy and ride away on a bike (with L plates) then someone who wants to sell me that bike should realise that I'm going to want to try it first.
This dealer does CBT course as well I discovered. So he can put me on one bike with L plates before I've even completed my CBT, and he's covered. But he can't do the same on another bike which I'm thinking of buying AFTER I've completed the CBT?
Roger McLittriss said:
I think the reasoning is something like:
(a) you might bin it
(b) on the assumption that you've never ridden a bike, you won't know what to look for anyway (ie one 125 is as good as any other for your first bike: you can decide riding position (eg sports, cruiser, enduro) without actually needing to ride, although you might suffer later)
(c) you might bin it
Yes, a and c are true-from his point of view. b isn't true in my case as it happens, I've owned and ridden 125cc bikes for years when I was younger.(a) you might bin it
(b) on the assumption that you've never ridden a bike, you won't know what to look for anyway (ie one 125 is as good as any other for your first bike: you can decide riding position (eg sports, cruiser, enduro) without actually needing to ride, although you might suffer later)
(c) you might bin it
But-a and c from my point of view. Why would I spend £3000 on a bike from a guy who won't let me try it first?
OK-I'll leave it there. I didn't come on here to wind anyone up, or pick an argument. I take the points you've raised, even if I don't agree with them all.
Generally I think the law on bikes when I was younger was stupid. At 17 I bought a 125cc bike, went out and rode it-the fact I didn't kill myself was purely down to luck.
I think the new rules for youngsters are good. I've ridden motorbikes for 20,000 miles or so. Never had an accident, never came off. I driven cars for 39 years-full protected NCB, clean licence. Been a cyclist all my life-never been in an accident. I'm a 50 year old, boring, professional family man.
I'd like to ride motorbikes again just for the pleasure. Beginning to wonder if it's worth it.
Maybe bikers should want someone like me back on the road, maybe they shouldn't.
It's past my bedtime-good night and thanks to you all. I'll sleep on it.
Generally I think the law on bikes when I was younger was stupid. At 17 I bought a 125cc bike, went out and rode it-the fact I didn't kill myself was purely down to luck.
I think the new rules for youngsters are good. I've ridden motorbikes for 20,000 miles or so. Never had an accident, never came off. I driven cars for 39 years-full protected NCB, clean licence. Been a cyclist all my life-never been in an accident. I'm a 50 year old, boring, professional family man.
I'd like to ride motorbikes again just for the pleasure. Beginning to wonder if it's worth it.
Maybe bikers should want someone like me back on the road, maybe they shouldn't.
It's past my bedtime-good night and thanks to you all. I'll sleep on it.
Edited by Cold Hans on Monday 27th October 22:12
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