Un-Modified Chimaera Club (UMCC)
Discussion
Chilliman said:
Goaty Bill said:
Of course, it's much easier for your crew: Wheel Barrow Club (WBC) 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wheelbarrow is one word. That makes it the WC 
Thank you for the correction.
The WC it would be.
ChimpofDarkness said:
Goaty Bill said:
Read the small print of the club charter (that I just made up
)
Minor modifications, where the original parts are no longer available, or providing they do not dramatically improve performance, or visibly alter the appearance of the vehicle, may be given special dispensation.
Right so basically if you use modern technology (even sympathetically) to make the car better than is ever was when it left Bristol Avenue.)Minor modifications, where the original parts are no longer available, or providing they do not dramatically improve performance, or visibly alter the appearance of the vehicle, may be given special dispensation.
YOU IS BANNED FROM THE GOATY GANG!
Have I understood the small print correctly?
I must refer my learned colleague to the opening statement;
"For those of us who truly believe that our Chimaera was always perfect, just the way Peter and the boys made her."
And again to refer you to the specific text quoted above; "providing they do not dramatically improve performance, or visibly alter the appearance of the vehicle".
In the spirit of the opening statement, with respect for the fact of some components no longer being available, or in extremis, and enclosing a request for dispensation, the use of non-standard parts may not in fact disqualify the applicant from membership.
In fact, I personally have a non-standard radiator.
However, there were mitigating factors in this 'modification', to wit;
1) A truly standard original component could no longer be obtained from a TVR main dealer at that time;
2) A replacement component was definitely and most assuredly required, immediately as a replacement, not an enhancement for it's own sake.
3) The offending component was in fact purchased directly from a TVR main dealer as a direct replacement for the unavailable original component, at an additional cost above and beyond the fee otherwise publicly quoted by the manufacturer.
4) The person purchasing the offending component fully recognised the suitability of the original component to 'serve the purpose', and did not otherwise have a cause for purchasing the new component, were it not for the untimely and violent demise of the original component.
5) The purchaser of the offending component showed true remorse at having to follow this route.
6) The purchaser successfully argued that the ability to drive the vehicle, sometimes would have to override the demand for originality required by the opening statement referred to above.
Whereas, in your case my good sir you openly, publicly and for the record state; "My temperature & oil pressure gauges tell the truth".
I have never heard of such an outright disgrace to the brand and to the model in particular!
I can only stand in wonder at such a brazen attitude.
ds 
. Need Not Apply!
MuffDaddy said:
I have a non standard wireless, and I'm going to move the electrics over winter.
Can I join?
The very fact that you refer to it as a "wireless" would count heavily in your favour I think.Can I join?
It is something of a push though, as I still have my original, and should think they must be repairable.
Personally I would keep the original 'wireless', irrespective of serviceability, and live without the sounds it makes, as they were in any case always quite effectively drowned out by the sound of the engine.
In fact that is exactly what I have done, and I have no idea if mine works or not, as I haven't tried it in at least 5 years.
But, that is a personal preference to an extent, and your application is under consideration.
Chimaeraman said:
I have dust caps with a TVR logo - does that mean I am out?
Did you obtain said 'dust caps' (whatever they are) from a TVR main dealer?I have seen trinkets such as these under the counter, though shockingly in plain view of the public, in certain main dealer shops.
My personal belief is these types of modifications may occur from a slightly exaggerated enthusiasm for the car that one loves so deeply, and is generally quite forgiveable.
I doubt that they "dramatically improve performance", and so your application is under consideration.
Naybr said:
Mine doesn't have the standard petrol in the tank. Apparently it has been replaced several times since the car was new. I guess that means I can't join either ...?
Now, now Mr Naybor. There is no reason to be overly sensitive.We are actually quite a friendly and civilised bunch over here.
I seem to recall meeting quite a number of TVR owners in similar straights at various fuelling points around the country over the years.
Oddly enough, I am certain that I have met most fellow TVR owners that I have met at all, in similar circumstances over the years.
Assuming this is your only modification, your application is under consideration.
phazed said:
Goaty Bill said:
Tch, somebody is feeling a bit sensitive at being left out
What he said!
So, by that token, if I remove this stripe, I'm in with a chance then cause I haven't a fan or a blower, (foot in 2 camps mode).What he said!
But, how do you propose to explain this?
and...
this
I suspect the only original components are the swirl pot and the wiper motor!
Clearly there is no attempt to improve performance here is there?
pshaw!
wuckfitracing said:
Like it. Can I join. Reversing shocking crime of moving away from non standard parts used by previous owners to return to original is my aim (Lexus style back lights, nasty)
Its a 430 and possibly the 3rd oldest ever made, hence originallity is good. My spelling however may not be.
Great news Bill, that's two of you, Its a 430 and possibly the 3rd oldest ever made, hence originallity is good. My spelling however may not be.
Seriously, this could be a great club
Chilliman said:
wuckfitracing said:
Like it. Can I join. Reversing shocking crime of moving away from non standard parts used by previous owners to return to original is my aim (Lexus style back lights, nasty)
Its a 430 and possibly the 3rd oldest ever made, hence originallity is good. My spelling however may not be.
Great news Bill, that's two of you, Its a 430 and possibly the 3rd oldest ever made, hence originallity is good. My spelling however may not be.
Seriously, this could be a great club
With some notable exceptions of course such as this Chillimonster fellow (he apparently can't count the other applicants above in his complex calculations arriving at the sum of 2).
Colin, the road to redemption is long (read expensive), but the effort is laudable, especially when returning one of the older girls to a fit life.
It is good to know, between you and the others, that there may be a few of us, and more importantly our cars, left that still believe Blackpool had it pretty much right.
Nice clean looking car btw
Now Chilli, 1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 1 = 3, etc.
Got it now?
Worried now. I thought this was the club for me, as I don't have enough hair to need a hair dryer.
BUT
I have non-standard shock absorbers.
I updated the Pie-on-ear for one that works
I have about 200 more stone chips than the standard car
I have a midi fuse between alternator and battery, where the rubbish blade fuse should be
I have fitted the mod-wise hot start mod after two non-restarts this summer
Otherwise Niggles is as standard and is cared for by a TVR specialist who cares
Can I come in please?
BUT
I have non-standard shock absorbers.
I updated the Pie-on-ear for one that works
I have about 200 more stone chips than the standard car
I have a midi fuse between alternator and battery, where the rubbish blade fuse should be
I have fitted the mod-wise hot start mod after two non-restarts this summer
Otherwise Niggles is as standard and is cared for by a TVR specialist who cares
Can I come in please?
Quietlybonkers said:
Worried now. I thought this was the club for me, as I don't have enough hair to need a hair dryer.
BUT
I have non-standard shock absorbers.
I updated the Pie-on-ear for one that works
I have about 200 more stone chips than the standard car
I have a midi fuse between alternator and battery, where the rubbish blade fuse should be
I have fitted the mod-wise hot start mod after two non-restarts this summer
Otherwise Niggles is as standard and is cared for by a TVR specialist who cares
Can I come in please?
I have the feeling Mr Bonkers, that you may have something of the 'right stuff'.BUT
I have non-standard shock absorbers.
I updated the Pie-on-ear for one that works
I have about 200 more stone chips than the standard car
I have a midi fuse between alternator and battery, where the rubbish blade fuse should be
I have fitted the mod-wise hot start mod after two non-restarts this summer
Otherwise Niggles is as standard and is cared for by a TVR specialist who cares
Can I come in please?
I have seen you appear swayed by the arguments presented by the massed unclean, that all could be better, that all should be better, that all would be better, if only...
It has to be said, for those relatively new to TVR ownership, it is a minefield here.
I am convinced that there are many, like yourself, that must feel utterly alone when reading endless posts with pages long lists of 'necessary' modifications.
With the arrival of the elitist MCC it is natural for some of the less secure to clamour for membership there. The need to belong is strong.
I do not see anything in your list of 'modifications' that would be outright cause for exclusion.
dbv8 said:
Hang on a minute!
Surely there has been a club for quite a few years now that is suitable for the unmodified few. They frown and tut at any performance enhancing changes made to the beloved marque.
TVRCC
And so it begins. A visit from the Master of Temptation himself Surely there has been a club for quite a few years now that is suitable for the unmodified few. They frown and tut at any performance enhancing changes made to the beloved marque.
TVRCC
Until I see the fire breathing 8L+ BBC in the [remnants] of your Chimaera, you will not have achieved even half of the status demanded of the True Master of Temptation. Realise your potential evil one! Maximum Temptation?
To be clear on the reasons for the original post;
1) in direct response to; MCC
2) to bring balance to a forum that incessantly demands changes and modifications to our beautiful cars as some sort of Holy Grail of TVR ownership
3) to ensure that the existing few, and those that join in the future, realise there is an alternative to endless modification, to give them a safe haven in the turmoil of Chimaera abuse, to let them know; You are NOT alone!
Should there be any confusion as to my motivation (aside from the obvious 'winding up' of members of MCC
);There is no intention to compete with the venerable institution of the TVRCC.
There is no intention to suggest that anyone interested in the principals of UMCC;
1) must be have masses of cash to endlessly refurbish their Chimaera
2) must have a pristine low mileage garage queen, though they are also welcome
3) must maintain originality to the point of having a car which is essentially unusable or impractical
Simply, as stated above; Just a voice of reason
in the wilderness of mass modification madness 
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