Elecy handbrake

Elecy handbrake

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Classic Chim

12,424 posts

151 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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mk1fan said:
Electric handbrakes are right up there with square steering wheels.
rofl

TwinKam

3,021 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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LongBaz said:
Just out of interest, does the handbrake have to be on the rear wheels for MOT purposes.
No, it can be on the front wheels, or the prop shaft.

TwinKam

3,021 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Classic Chim said:
I can only conclude the missus wants to drive it rofl

I only use the handbrake in emergencies or on a big old hill. Leaving it in gear is my remit mostly.
Don't complain when it doesn't work then; handbrake mechanisms need regular exercise. Owners of autos especially give themselves away by the 12 months worth of detritus stacked on top of the handbrake lever...

QBee

21,074 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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LongBaz said:
Just out of interest, does the handbrake have to be on the rear wheels for MOT purposes.
Only if you want to do handbrake turns, which I always felt was the biggest loss with both the Mercedes style foot pedal handbrakes, and the electronic ones. I think it can be on either set of wheels for MOT purposes, it just has to be independent of the foot brake pedal.

I must be one of the few people on here who has actually seen it used in an emergency, and not just to slow a speeding and wayward learner - back in the 1960's my mum was driving the four of us around the Derbyshire hills in our Cooper S when the hydraulics failed completely as she was approaching a busy junction on a steep downhill. On the shout of "Aarrrggghh, no brakes!!!" my father in the passenger seat yanked the handbrake on as quick as a flash, and saved us all from obliteration. Hence why the handbrake should be a separate system, and why to this day I don't like the systems that treat it as a parking brake only.

LongBaz

2,091 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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TwinKam said:
LongBaz said:
Just out of interest, does the handbrake have to be on the rear wheels for MOT purposes.
No, it can be on the front wheels, or the prop shaft.
I have a line lock for the front wheels 😀

LucyP

1,716 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Read this thread before you think about fitting a handbrake to the front wheels!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=13...


Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

111 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Propshaft brake?

lancepar

1,029 posts

174 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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The correct term is parking brake and as long as it stops the motion of the vehicle it can operate anywhere to achieve, so prop' shafts are in.

Parking brake definition.
"a brake used to hold an already stationary vehicle, often operated by hand"

cool

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

151 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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TwinKam said:
Don't complain when it doesn't work then; handbrake mechanisms need regular exercise. Owners of autos especially give themselves away by the 12 months worth of detritus stacked on top of the handbrake lever...
I activate my handbrake regularly wink

TwinKam

3,021 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Penelope Stopit said:
Propshaft brake?
It's a LR thing, 'transmission brake'. Mechanical drum brake fitted to the rear output of the transfer 'box.
Hydraulic handbrakes have long been used in rallying and auto trials, but the drum brake handbrake cables were left in place to satisfy the MoT inspector and the rally scrutineer. But back in the 80's, when clubmen were started to fit rear discs on their rally Escorts (Mk3 sliding front calipers IIRC) they often failed scrutineering for not having a mechanical parking brake. Various cheats appeared which were often no more than a cable to try to pull the calipers inwards on their slides. Then holes started appearing in the transmission tunnel just behind the gear shift.... through which a large screwdriver could be passed into the front prop yoke.
I kid you not.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

111 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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TwinKam said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Propshaft brake?
It's a LR thing, 'transmission brake'. Mechanical drum brake fitted to the rear output of the transfer 'box.
Hydraulic handbrakes have long been used in rallying and auto trials, but the drum brake handbrake cables were left in place to satisfy the MoT inspector and the rally scrutineer. But back in the 80's, when clubmen were started to fit rear discs on their rally Escorts (Mk3 sliding front calipers IIRC) they often failed scrutineering for not having a mechanical parking brake. Various cheats appeared which were often no more than a cable to try to pull the calipers inwards on their slides. Then holes started appearing in the transmission tunnel just behind the gear shift.... through which a large screwdriver could be passed into the front prop yoke.
I kid you not.
Hadn't seen your earlier post
TwinKam said:
No, it can be on the front wheels, or the prop shaft.
In a round about way was suggesting a propshaft brake

Teach me for not reading through the topic

Good info about the scrutineering cheats

Was it thee that shoved wirewool up the Group B 6R4 exhausts to quiet them down a touch

Miss the rallying very much, wiring them and watching

TwinKam

3,021 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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I miss it too, although not the lying in freezing mud part of rally servicing!
We had a special rear silencer just for scrutineering, others used a dodgy tachometer to indicate higher revs than actual.
Brings back memories...

QBee

21,074 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Sounds like today's track day noise test:

"What's your rev limit, 5000?"

"Errr....."

"Rev to 3750 then please"

"Yes sir"

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

111 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Sad isn't it, those days will never be beaten

Out of interest, what teams did you build and service cars for?

Freezing hands on freezing cold metal.....lovely, thing is you did it, many would jump at the chance

Only did the workshop stuff, private cars and some work for a works team indirectly. RED comes to mind

The tacho cheat is a classic, never heard of it

Best go, this is a TVR forum

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

111 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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QBee said:
Sounds like today's track day noise test:

"What's your rev limit, 5000?"

"Errr....."

"Rev to 3750 then please"

"Yes sir"
Nice cheat

QBee

21,074 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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I have paid my money and want to get on track.
And the noise testers at the track want me on there too.
I never lie to them, but if they want to tell me it's lower, then I don't argue.
V8 TVRs rarely fail drive by noise tests.
It's the harsh, high revving engines that fail, and those are the ones in which the local council is interested.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

111 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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QBee said:
I have paid my money and want to get on track.
And the noise testers at the track want me on there too.
I never lie to them, but if they want to tell me it's lower, then I don't argue.
V8 TVRs rarely fail drive by noise tests.
It's the harsh, high revving engines that fail, and those are the ones in which the local council is interested.
For many years Oulton Park never had problems with the locals regarding noise from racing, so I've been told by long time locals

People that were new to the area having bought properties were the ones that did the complaining

Can't beat the sound of a screaming engine

QBee

21,074 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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There is also the school of thought that there are so many more track days these days, that many racks are open and running six to seven days a week in the windows open months

Zener

18,981 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Cheap tickets if you live in ear shot of Brands Hatch , I know of at least a few people who appreciate that little bonus

magpies

5,131 posts

184 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Penelope Stopit said:
Sad isn't it, those days will never be beaten

Out of interest, what teams did you build and service cars for?

Freezing hands on freezing cold metal.....lovely, thing is you did it, many would jump at the chance

Only did the workshop stuff, private cars and some work for a works team indirectly. RED comes to mind

The tacho cheat is a classic, never heard of it

Best go, this is a TVR forum
My mate (I sometimes navigated for him) was a lecturer in Physical Electronics in the 60/70's and was a wiz at building circuits boards for the tacho to lower the reading by 500 revs at 4000 but read fine at tickover. Also alternator regulator pack for the 11ac to give a solid 14v (adjustable to 14.4) to give very bright lights.