Black Diamond discs & pads
Discussion
Has anyone any experience of fitting these to their car?
I'm considering Grooved Black Diamonds and pads for my Griffith, and helped fit them to a fellow P/H's Chimaera at the weekend, which led to a couple of questions:
1) What are their bedding-in characteristics like? Had problems locking the wheels on the Chim we fitted them to at the weekend at first, so I'm hoping they improve dramatically once they've bedded in?
The feel was springy, as is typical for new pads of any sort, and it was obvious even after the first few miles running that the surface of the disc was rapidly wearing in, but any experiences on braking power and pad life once they have settled in?
2) The pad area was significantly smaller on the Black Diamond pads than on the standard (late/500spec) brake pads we took off. I checked the parts codes on the internet when I got home, and while a variety of discs are listed, the pads are the same code (PP206) for all Griffiths and Chimaeras, regardless of date and engine size.
This seems to be at odds with the information given in the Bible, which lists different calipers and pads for 500's/later cars.
Any thoughts? And can anyone who has fitted Black Diamond discs and pads confirm that they are better than standard pads, despite the smaller pad area?
>> Edited by Martin_s on Monday 23 May 20:43
I'm considering Grooved Black Diamonds and pads for my Griffith, and helped fit them to a fellow P/H's Chimaera at the weekend, which led to a couple of questions:
1) What are their bedding-in characteristics like? Had problems locking the wheels on the Chim we fitted them to at the weekend at first, so I'm hoping they improve dramatically once they've bedded in?
The feel was springy, as is typical for new pads of any sort, and it was obvious even after the first few miles running that the surface of the disc was rapidly wearing in, but any experiences on braking power and pad life once they have settled in?
2) The pad area was significantly smaller on the Black Diamond pads than on the standard (late/500spec) brake pads we took off. I checked the parts codes on the internet when I got home, and while a variety of discs are listed, the pads are the same code (PP206) for all Griffiths and Chimaeras, regardless of date and engine size.
This seems to be at odds with the information given in the Bible, which lists different calipers and pads for 500's/later cars.
Any thoughts? And can anyone who has fitted Black Diamond discs and pads confirm that they are better than standard pads, despite the smaller pad area?
>> Edited by Martin_s on Monday 23 May 20:43
Martin,
i fitted mine at the same time as Tacoma, though doing both the front and rear across the 2 days. As you stated the brakes were poor at first, hardly feeling like they were slowing the car let alone stopping, however, they are getting better each journey as the top coating wears off.
I was told by perf tuning that it does take a couple of hundred miles for this to happen completely and the brakes to therefore be at their best.
Hope this helps
Tony
i fitted mine at the same time as Tacoma, though doing both the front and rear across the 2 days. As you stated the brakes were poor at first, hardly feeling like they were slowing the car let alone stopping, however, they are getting better each journey as the top coating wears off.
I was told by perf tuning that it does take a couple of hundred miles for this to happen completely and the brakes to therefore be at their best.
Hope this helps
Tony
Martin_s said:
Has anyone any experience of fitting these to their car?
I'm considering Grooved Black Diamonds and pads for my Griffith, and helped fit them to a fellow P/H's Chimaera at the weekend, which led to a couple of questions:
2) The pad area was significantly smaller on the Black Diamond pads than on the standard (late/500spec) brake pads we took off. I checked the parts codes on the internet when I got home, and while a variety of discs are listed, the pads are the same code (PP206) for all Griffiths and Chimaeras, regardless of date and engine size.
>> Edited by Martin_s on Monday 23 May 20:43
Previous expereince that I have had with 3 differedt cars is that the pads are identical in size as they are suppodes to fit standard discs on their own anyhow.
Also be careful with the brakes for the first few hundred miles - the coating on the disc's take ages to wear off, and they will warp if you dont bed them in properly.
The diffrence when they have bedded in is quite amazing, the pedal should be harder to use requiring a bit more effort, but the control and feedback will be improved greatly (i.e less skidding!)
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