modwise warm start kit
modwise warm start kit
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parrot of doom

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23,075 posts

263 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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[pic]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tom.jeffs4/car%20stuff/modwise%20installation.jpg[/pic]

Just thought people might be interested in installing this kit there, as its not possible on my Chim to install it in the footwell.

s4s280

71 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Thanks POD - now I'm really scared of doing it ;-)

Sam Gamgee

966 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Duh, wot does it do, exactly...? And would it be good for a griff 500?

parrot of doom

Original Poster:

23,075 posts

263 months

Friday 1st July 2005
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It eliminates the warm start problem, whereby the engine bay is so warm that the resistance of the wire to the starter motor is increased to a point where there isn't enough current available to turn the engine over.

It basically uses the original starter cable to switch a relay, which itself is connected directly to the battery - ensuring that the starter motor gets a nice, clean supply.

Its not a problem I've had, so I've installed it as a precaution, but many other RV8 owners have suffered from not being able to start the car once the engine bay is warm.

Sam Gamgee

966 posts

282 months

Friday 1st July 2005
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Aaah! Cheers, POD!! Must say, not had this problem.But ya never know. Thanks for explaining...

Dave.

edward1

839 posts

295 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Will have to have a look at it in the flesh sometime,as I do on occaision suffer the hot start problem. It is embarrasing bump starting from the petrol station. I always thought the problem was caused by the heat acting on the starter directly and causingt he solenoid to stick. Hence some suggestions about lagging the starter.

Your not going to Oulton park track day this weekend by any chance are you?

parrot of doom

Original Poster:

23,075 posts

263 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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edward1 said:
Will have to have a look at it in the flesh sometime,as I do on occaision suffer the hot start problem. It is embarrasing bump starting from the petrol station. I always thought the problem was caused by the heat acting on the starter directly and causingt he solenoid to stick. Hence some suggestions about lagging the starter.

Your not going to Oulton park track day this weekend by any chance are you?


No sorry, but you're welcome to pop by my place any time you like. In fact, pm me if you fancy a beer around the North Cheshire area anytime.

dave_p

235 posts

275 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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Hi

I fitted the wiring mod to the existing wiring loom in the passenger footwell on my Chim 500..took me about 10 mins to do and never had the problem since. This might be OK for Griff owners..but best let David Beer comment on this.

I had some pics of the wiring mod in the passenger footwell, will try and dig them out.

Cheers
Dave

jem

548 posts

269 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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and a fine kit it is too

works a treat on those embarassing hard to start problem areas

J

Graham Butler

88 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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Got caught twice this hot weekend. Where can I get the kit.

smedlen

867 posts

272 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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Here: www.clarionservice.co.uk/

I would fit the kit in the passenger footwell if at all possible. Don't fancy having all those connections exposed to the elements.

After dozens of embarrassing moments I eventually fitted this kit and have not had one hot start problem since.

Very highly recommended!

Graham Butler

88 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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Thanks smedlen. Ordered

tbag

37 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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Could anyone post an 'idiots guide' to fitting the kit in the footwell please (especially for me)!!

Thanks

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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You can take a look on BBs web-site, or it was on here, somewhere ! Or email me and i will send the instructions.
I am sure BB will pop up and do the link. starter-modification.htm

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=130261&f=6&h=0&hw

just a few other "hot start" thoughts.


>> Edited by david beer on Wednesday 13th July 20:30

BB

>> Edited by Ballistic Banana on Wednesday 13th July 22:00

chim-ian

819 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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david beer said:
You can take a look on BBs web-site, or it was on here, somewhere ! Or email me and i will send the instructions.
I am sure BB will pop up and do the link. <a href="http://ballisticbanana.co.uk/starter-modification.htm"><a href="http://ballisticbanana.co.uk/starter-modification.htm">http://ballisticbanana.co.uk/starter-modification.htm</a></a>
<a href="www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=114186&f=13&h=0&hw=hot+start">www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=114186&f=13&h=0&hw=hot+start</a>
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=130261&f=6&h=0&hw=hot+start

just a few other "hot start" thoughts.


>> Edited by david beer on Wednesday 13th July 20:16

>> Edited by david beer on Wednesday 13th July 20:22

>> Edited by david beer on Wednesday 13th July 20:30


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900ss

104 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Old thread I know, but is this mod still available?
Idea of cost?


Big Al.

69,336 posts

287 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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900ss said:
Old thread I know, but is this mod still available?
Idea of cost?




Blimey you can dig em up can't you?

Not sure sorry.

900ss

104 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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No worries
All I could find were ol threads n they all seem to point to the same loom/elec fault.
Now just about to fit another starter, so this seems the sensible way to go.

tvrforever

3,196 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Yes it is available - about £20 I think (David should correc me though).

Got mine 2 weeks ago before I went skiing - but am looking for confidence to install it myself... or have TopCats install it for me...

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Sunday 26th March 2006
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Might get told off for this but do not fit a new starter until you have fitted a relay "back" into the solenoid circuit. It should be there, in all cases, even if not had the hot start problem.