Went to see my first Jag XJR

Went to see my first Jag XJR

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SV8Predator

2,102 posts

166 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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I agree entirely. That's the problem with the X308 market at present.

You could get a perfectly good car for £1500 (or less).

And you could purchase a completely unreliable money-pit for £5000.

You really have to go in with your eyes open and a lot of knowledge behind you.

mnaylor

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274 posts

130 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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NormanD said:
When I used to employ staff there was a Quotation. 'If you pay Peanuts you get Monkeys'

Same goes with buying cars, ' Pay Peanuts you end up buying Rustbuckets and problems' !!
OK you save a grand or two orriginally but then pay any 1,000s more putting the car right after
By the same token, a car is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. I have seen XJR's sitting at £5k which have been for sale for more than 6 months. They don't sell at that price. Maybe showroom condition low milers would?

I will bide my time and wait for the right car at the right price. I simply refuse to pay £5k for one of these, personally I don't think they are worth that, plus I have set myself a budget and intend to stick to it.

giblet

8,878 posts

178 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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The right car will always sell quickly. This one seemed to sell pretty swiftly - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...

I suggest checking out the JEC classifieds from time to time, you may end up finding a good example on there that is within budget.

giblet

8,878 posts

178 months

Domf

286 posts

156 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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giblet said:
Retails at £2900 and CAPs between £900-1500, it's a thirsty 15 year old car and that's how the market sees it. They're not in Classic status yet and prices are still falling

lestershaw

1,591 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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and no cruise control
and no premium sound

2 things i would want from £3500

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

211 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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The Parkers and Glass Trade price guides are there to keep the Trade in buisness. No singe dealer or garage group would be able to buy and sell cars at a profit for any length of time unless they had this information. They wouldn't have a clue what to offer in a part exchange or how much margin they might get on any deal. It's there simply to stabilise and consolidate values for the Trades benefit and IMO bears absolutely no relation to the actual worth a of a particular car at a particular time.

The guides work well enough for mainstream cars that are relatively new which are the Trades bread and butter, but IMO needs chucking in the bin once cars get older. Chances are there's a world of difference between two seemingly identical cars that will both be retailed or advertised in a private sale at identical money because "the book says that's what it's worth".

In most cases that's complete bks but so many people seem to go along with it - or get decieved by it - it obviously works.

If you're buying a older or unusual car the defining critera perhaps is - never mind how much the vendor thinks it's worth or what the book says, how much is it actually worth right here and right now, to me?


mnaylor

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274 posts

130 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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giblet said:
Thanks Giblet, I already called this one as soon as it came up. Rust, alloys need seeing to, doesn't sound in the greatest condition overall. He was also a bit vague when I was asking him specific questions. So, I am still hunting.

I think the main problem I am going to have is rust. Was speaking to a mechanic friend today and he rightly pointed out that even if you repair rust it WILL come back, the only 100% cure is to replace the infected panel.

As for prices, yes the official trade prices are always low.

If it ends up that I can't get a good one for my budget, I won't get one. I may start considering other options soon as I refuse to get involved with rusty cars.

chancha

150 posts

220 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Hi Mike, got a 2002 52 plate saphire blue with oatmael interior. All the toys including phone, cruise, heated seats and front windscreen. PM me if you would like to know more... cheers

mnaylor

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274 posts

130 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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chancha said:
Hi Mike, got a 2002 52 plate saphire blue with oatmael interior. All the toys including phone, cruise, heated seats and front windscreen. PM me if you would like to know more... cheers
Hi, I am interested and have sent you an e-mail.

I am not having much luck finding one.....

chancha

150 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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mnaylor said:
Hi, I am interested and have sent you an e-mail.

I am not having much luck finding one.....
Email sent

mnaylor

Original Poster:

274 posts

130 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Still looking...............

mnaylor

Original Poster:

274 posts

130 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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Still looking...............

NormanD

3,208 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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mnaylor said:
Still looking...............
OK stick to your price bracket and get a Rust Bucket

giblet

8,878 posts

178 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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Allegedly rust free, no idea what the reserve is though

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-JAGUAR-XJR-V8-AUTO-...

Gallen

2,162 posts

256 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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giblet said:
Allegedly rust free, no idea what the reserve is though

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-JAGUAR-XJR-V8-AUTO-...
Looks nice! Ive not known anyone have a £precautionary £head £gasket(s?) £though

NormanD

3,208 posts

229 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Gallen said:
Looks nice! Ive not known anyone have a £precautionary £head £gasket(s?) £though
Although a good idea when changing the tensioners as you are well over 1/2 the way there at the time

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

211 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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NormanD said:
Gallen said:
Looks nice! Ive not known anyone have a £precautionary £head £gasket(s?) £though
Although a good idea when changing the tensioners as you are well over 1/2 the way there at the time
No it is not. Nothing like it in fact - there's a complete order of magnitude difference in the workshop hours required to do the two jobs

I'd be very suspicious of a V8 that's had a "precautionary" head gasket(s) changed. The only reasons I can think you'd even contemplate taking the heads off a V8 engine is if you either had a fairly serious leak, a burnt out valve or the engine had been grossly overheated resulting in a blown gasket(s). Either way you'd need to be reassured that the work has been done correctly and in the case of overheating that the engine and heads had suffered no long term damage or what caused the burnt valve had been correctly diagnosed and rectified - which'll be almost impossible to prove either way with a brief test drive at the time of purchase.

Personally I'd walk away.

chancha

150 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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mnaylor said:
Hi, I am interested and have sent you an e-mail.

I am not having much luck finding one.....
Email sent

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

166 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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chancha said:
mnaylor said:
Hi, I am interested and have sent you an e-mail.

I am not having much luck finding one.....
Email sent
And the reply was:

mnaylor said:
Still looking...............