S4 New Dual Mass flywheel £1600!!
Discussion
Does this seem right for a 2003 S4?
I'm in a tricky situation right now as I'm stuck on visiting friends in the south and the car has packed up and I dont know where I can get the car repaired!
Anyone have any pointers or recommendations for someone who could do the work for a reasonable rate?
I'm in a tricky situation right now as I'm stuck on visiting friends in the south and the car has packed up and I dont know where I can get the car repaired!
Anyone have any pointers or recommendations for someone who could do the work for a reasonable rate?
Flywheel should be about £500 + cluctch kit maybe £150
Maybe 6-8 hours to replace £600-£800.
Total £1450 + vat
Euros do the flywheel for £575.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Audi_S4_4.2_2004...
Maybe 6-8 hours to replace £600-£800.
Total £1450 + vat
Euros do the flywheel for £575.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Audi_S4_4.2_2004...
Pvapour said:
clutch is quite new, can it be done without replacing the clutch?
Yes Its just good practice to put a new one in while the box is out, saves the labour cost if it needs a clutch in a few months time, but if its new, provided the grease from inside the flywheel hasnt contaminated it no need to do clutch also.
Just ring round asking garages how much to take the gearbox out of a S4. Prices I gave were guestimates at main dealer rates.
Y'know, I don't understand what the problem is with some of these newer dual mass flywheels. They seem to be dropping like flies, (or should it be flywheels?), at unacceptably low mileages, and not just on Audis.
My 2.6 80 Avante is the garage hack and has done 197000 miles and the flywheel is still perfect! Could there be a Chinese connection in there somewhere I wonder?
My 2.6 80 Avante is the garage hack and has done 197000 miles and the flywheel is still perfect! Could there be a Chinese connection in there somewhere I wonder?
thats what I was told, LUK have supplied my new one but the B7 version is not yet available through them, only the B6 so I have not been able to upgrade unless I buy through Audi (apparently it fits)
Interestingly the service dep. at Audi suggested they might contribute due to it being a known fault, but they would need to diagnose and then present the case unfortunately I'm stranded on the way home so time is of the essence, quite surprised they even entertained the idea tbo.
I do think the fault itself is out of order for a 60k mile FASH car though.
Interestingly the service dep. at Audi suggested they might contribute due to it being a known fault, but they would need to diagnose and then present the case unfortunately I'm stranded on the way home so time is of the essence, quite surprised they even entertained the idea tbo.
I do think the fault itself is out of order for a 60k mile FASH car though.
Pvapour said:
thats what I was told, LUK have supplied my new one but the B7 version is not yet available through them, only the B6 so I have not been able to upgrade unless I buy through Audi (apparently it fits)
Interestingly the service dep. at Audi suggested they might contribute due to it being a known fault, but they would need to diagnose and then present the case unfortunately I'm stranded on the way home so time is of the essence, quite surprised they even entertained the idea tbo.
I do think the fault itself is out of order for a 60k mile FASH car though.
This raises issues that, for me, are totally unacceptable.Interestingly the service dep. at Audi suggested they might contribute due to it being a known fault, but they would need to diagnose and then present the case unfortunately I'm stranded on the way home so time is of the essence, quite surprised they even entertained the idea tbo.
I do think the fault itself is out of order for a 60k mile FASH car though.
At the end of the day, it really should not matter where these components are made, the supplier is responsible for the integrity of the component, whether it be Audi or anyone else. But I have discovered that a great many components have the primary manufacturing process carried out abroad, brought into this country and "finished" here. That can simply mean boxing them up! That is all that is required by law to enable the supplier to claim British or European manufacture. This process of boxing up frequently involves a massive mark up on the retail price of the component. A classic, current example of this is Jaguar. The auxiliary parking brake shoes on most models are manufactured by Ferodo, and I retail these in a service at £35. If you buy them from Jaguar they are an utterly outrageous £115: but they come in a beautiful british racing green box with a silver leaping cat on the side; clearly the dearest box in the world! The shoes contained therein are Ferodo!
In the workshop currently I have 2 cam cover gaskets, both from the same Audi, waiting warranty claims; 4 wishbone bushes from another Audi to go back due to premature failure. On dismantling them I discovered that the internal design is incorrect and this almost certainly was the cause of failure. I won't name the supplier, but you will certainly know them, and I deal with them on a daily basis.
The worst aspect of this is the time taken to chase up the problems created by faulty components. I now absolutely refuse to let a supplier away with this, and insist that some sort of compensation is made towards labour costs incurred through replacement.
Pvapour, you are of course, correct in asserting that 60k is an unacceptable mileage for this kind of failure. I would contact Audi customer care if the dealer doesn't play ball. I've found them very helpful on a number of occasions.
unfortunately I do not have the time to go follow that route, I did enquire at an Audi dealership and it was quite a positive note, but the whole affair would have been far to drawn out for me at this present time as I'm on my way home to France, the indy I have the car with at the mo will have it finished today so I can be home by w/e.
Your points around outsourcing 99% of manufacture then wrapping for UK made are very interesting, did not think VAG were doing this
Most reliable cars I have owned are my TVRs and USA built.
Most unreliable have been the SL5, TT and now this S4, of which the Cruise has now packed up and the alarm goes off for no reason
wish I'd gone for the C32 estate now, but then again on the SL55s history....
Your points around outsourcing 99% of manufacture then wrapping for UK made are very interesting, did not think VAG were doing this
Most reliable cars I have owned are my TVRs and USA built.
Most unreliable have been the SL5, TT and now this S4, of which the Cruise has now packed up and the alarm goes off for no reason
wish I'd gone for the C32 estate now, but then again on the SL55s history....
ended up using an Indy called Kartechnics in Poole, have to say they have been really good, last minute job and price £1450 all in with clutch (which turned out to be down to rivets contrary to previous owner stating it had been done 10k miles ago 
)
4wd complications for an extra £250 makes the price about right IMO, picking up lunchtime so fingers x all is sorted.
)4wd complications for an extra £250 makes the price about right IMO, picking up lunchtime so fingers x all is sorted.
quick post to say all worked out ok thanks to Kartechnics of Poole, came in cheaper than initial garages quote plus they urned it around pretty sharpish for me.
car is beautifully smooth now, covered 600 miles in it yesterday towing to very big motorbikes and it towed better than our range rover, seems to be a great little car, hopefully things will be a bit smoother here in....
cheers for everyones input
its nice to be back in the sun
car is beautifully smooth now, covered 600 miles in it yesterday towing to very big motorbikes and it towed better than our range rover, seems to be a great little car, hopefully things will be a bit smoother here in....
cheers for everyones input
its nice to be back in the sun
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