Discussion
JONNY TVR said:
I've had an S series, Chimaera's, Griff 500, 2 Cerbers 4.5's. The Cerbera is in a different class to the others as it is so much quicker
Although I've never owned a Cerbera, I've driven against them e.g. at Zolder. I can tell you that a good Griff 500 will beat the Cerbera (4.2 or 4.5) till 100 mph. After that, sure the Cerb is faster but not so much, especially if you treat the Griff to a little upgrading. Handling wise I guess the Cerb is superior, again however when you fit nitrons to the Griff and have it set up right, it's pretty close.
Must say I love the shape of the Cerb, shame it doesn't come as a convertible (no, a Chim is NOT a Cerb convertible, not even close).
The Griff however is the true "classic" for me, unbeatable on looks and driving pleasure.
Someone commented on the possibility of a convertible Cerbera before, notably pointing out that it would be quite difficult to stash the roof panel off of one of those in the boot!!!
And just to add my penny's worth, I prefer the looks of my Grif to a Cerbera and it sounds miles better.
Out of curiosity, what would be the possibility of putting a 4.5 AJP V8 into a Grif? That would be interesting!
And just to add my penny's worth, I prefer the looks of my Grif to a Cerbera and it sounds miles better.
Out of curiosity, what would be the possibility of putting a 4.5 AJP V8 into a Grif? That would be interesting!
Painey said:
Out of curiosity, what would be the possibility of putting a 4.5 AJP V8 into a Grif? That would be interesting!
Why?
What's wrong with the stonking great big rumbling, growling, Rover unit that's in it?
You don't need all this high revving malarky - deep down an dirty, that's where the fun is!
Rich...
shpub said:
Most things are a lot more expensive and need replacing more often. When things go wrong expect very big bills. Most of of the bits are TVR specials or racing spec components. Brake discs are 8 to 10 times the cost. Pads are 2-3 times. New clutchs can be well over £1000. Etc. Cheap for the level of performance but significantly more expensive than a Griff/Chimaera.
I would like the cerb for extra seats rather than the roof of (not a lover of flys in the teeth)but i would not enjoy the car knowing that if it broke i might not be able to afford the bills.
I was expecting £1500 a year to look after my new toy,but £2k to £3k is out of my league (only a builder not a dentist!)
I think that losing a bit of performance is not the main issue (as the griff seems quick anyway 340bhp should amuse me)but running costs are what i can afford.
burriana500 said:
Out of curiosity, what would be the possibility of putting a 4.5 AJP V8 into a Grif? That would be interesting!
Why?
What's wrong with the stonking great big rumbling, growling, Rover unit that's in it?
You don't need all this high revving malarky - deep down an dirty, that's where the fun is!
It would be nicer to put the cheaper rover into the cerb,at least i could afford to run it then!
If the engine in my Griff ever exploded beyond repair, I'd consider a Chevy LS1 5.7 V8 - and it fits, apparently. www.chevroletls1.com/chevrolet_ls1_6_info.html
My local TVR specialist has a Tuscan Speed 6 that is really poorly and has unfortunately only covered 8,000 miles. I saw it last week with the engine out. 
The garage staff told me that in their humble opinion, the Griffith 500 was the best car TVR had ever made...
Now no one has mentioned engines made of chocolate fingers
...oh sorry this is a Griffith thread! 
The garage staff told me that in their humble opinion, the Griffith 500 was the best car TVR had ever made... Now no one has mentioned engines made of chocolate fingers
...oh sorry this is a Griffith thread! simpo one said:
If the engine in my Griff ever exploded beyond repair, I'd consider a Chevy LS1 5.7 V8 - and it fits, apparently. www.chevroletls1.com/chevrolet_ls1_6_info.html
I must admit the chevys are great engines,bullet proof & cheap, shame about the rest of the car!!!
simpo one said:
If the engine in my Griff ever exploded beyond repair, I'd consider a Chevy LS1 5.7 V8 - and it fits, apparently. www.chevroletls1.com/chevrolet_ls1_6_info.html
Looks great, lot of power apparantly; however, it wouldn't be a real Griff anymore, would it? How about a special Rover V8 from V8 Dev. or John Eales? A small turbo added maybe?
simpo one said:
If the engine in my Griff ever exploded beyond repair, I'd consider a Chevy LS1 5.7 V8 - and it fits, apparently.
oo oo Chevy - now we're talking! Why stop at the 5.7, they do a lovely 7 litre that is rumoured to fit in the same space as the Rover - or maybe that was a Chrysler... who cares - it's big and it sounds scarey! Painey said:
Out of curiosity, what would be the possibility of putting a 4.5 AJP V8 into a Grif? That would be interesting!
It has been done, in Peter Wheelers own Griffith in the mid 90's, i saw it at brands in 95 during a factory track day, just about devoured everything else on the curcuit, ( probably a 4.2 though).
Tim
I'd like to drive a Cerbera but have never had the chance and because of the running costs etc I probably won't get round to owning one. I don't think you can beat the noise of the Rover V8 but it would be nice if it went a little quicker but then again it's fast enough for most circumstances.
Last time the Grif was being worked on I commented to someone at Castlesport about one of the Cerberas they had there and was told it sounded like a "bag of nails" compared to the Rover V8's.
Checked out the Chevy V8's on that site and that really would be interesting! Any idea on what kind of torque/bhp they put out as I don't really know that much about them? Obviously I've heard lots about them but nothing specific.
Last time the Grif was being worked on I commented to someone at Castlesport about one of the Cerberas they had there and was told it sounded like a "bag of nails" compared to the Rover V8's.
Checked out the Chevy V8's on that site and that really would be interesting! Any idea on what kind of torque/bhp they put out as I don't really know that much about them? Obviously I've heard lots about them but nothing specific.
Before you lot get too carried away... The AJP was intended for the Griff but the final package highlighted many discrepancies with the Griff chassis, suspension, brakes etc etc that stopped it in its tracks.
It was decided that the combination did not make a car that was driveable for mere mortals and this prompted the Cerbera work and development. What this also means that any power increase will hit the same limitations. Nothing that can't be coped with but it adds to the costs tremendously and can/will make a car that is very very tricky to drive and cope with.
It was decided that the combination did not make a car that was driveable for mere mortals and this prompted the Cerbera work and development. What this also means that any power increase will hit the same limitations. Nothing that can't be coped with but it adds to the costs tremendously and can/will make a car that is very very tricky to drive and cope with.
Painey said:
I don't think you can beat the noise of the Rover V8 but it would be nice if it went a little quicker but then again it's fast enough for most circumstances.
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Chris... and I quote from your profile "0-60 in 4.1 secs and I've had 170 on the clock"...
... just how much quicker do you want to go??
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