£32000(thirty two frickin thousand for a Griff!!!!!!!!!! )

£32000(thirty two frickin thousand for a Griff!!!!!!!!!! )

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MADMAX2

2,336 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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I went to see the griff today its £32000 but when you open the boot you get £30000 cash back!!!!!!!!!

Ant.

5,254 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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MADMAX2 said:
I went to see the griff today its £32000 but when you open the boot you get £30000 cash back!!!!!!!!!
Which in turn the dealer will exchange for 5 monkeys of the same era!!!

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

218 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Ant. said:
MADMAX2 said:
I went to see the griff today its £32000 but when you open the boot you get £30000 cash back!!!!!!!!!
Which in turn the dealer will exchange for 5 monkeys of the same era!!!
eek Only 5, prices really are on the increase for all TVRs then hehe

Marlon

735 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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jonnylayze said:
This hits the nail on the head for me - there is nothing like the Griffith now.
Having owned a Griff for 7 years I have a big soft-spot for it. But £30k? Not on your nelly!

With regard to "no ABS, no TC, no airbags etc", consider that you can just about get into a Noble M400 for £30k. Having owned a Noble too, the Griff (or any TVR) will only pip it on the V8 bellow and chiselled good looks wink

But... if V8-bellow-and-chiselled-good-looks is your bag then you can pick up an SL55 for less than £30k. Now that really does make a £30k Griff look expensive.

For less than £30k you could buy a 2002 SL55 and get DMS to lower it and give it the best part of 600 BHP, which REALLY REALLY makes a £30k Griff look expensive!

I would buy a Griff again, but as others have said, a "Griff is is Griff is a Griff". And you can get a very tidy one for £15k.




lazyitus

19,926 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Quinny said:
Funny thing is though... I don't care how good a Merc, BMW, Porsche etc is or how cheap it is...

I still wouldn't want to own one....

If I couldn't have a TVR I'd have a Cobra or a Westfield or an old TR6..... But that modern stuff does nowt for me...... They've got no soul
Unless it's a BMW - they often have an R Sole in them.

Edited by lazyitus on Thursday 22 April 12:31

Ant.

5,254 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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lazyitus said:
Quinny said:
Funny thing is though... I don't care how good a Merc, BMW, Porsche etc is or how cheap it is...

I still wouldn't want to own one....

If I couldn't have a TVR I'd have a Cobra or a Westfield or an old TR6..... But that modern stuff does nowt for me...... They've got no soul
Unless it's a BMW - they often have an R Sole in them.

Edited by lazyitus on Thursday 22 April 12:31
Oi !!!!! redcard

Johno

8,477 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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lazyitus

19,926 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Ant. said:
lazyitus said:
Quinny said:
Funny thing is though... I don't care how good a Merc, BMW, Porsche etc is or how cheap it is...

I still wouldn't want to own one....

If I couldn't have a TVR I'd have a Cobra or a Westfield or an old TR6..... But that modern stuff does nowt for me...... They've got no soul
Unless it's a BMW - they often have an R Sole in them.

Edited by lazyitus on Thursday 22 April 12:31
Oi !!!!! redcard
hehe

I'm as guilty - I am a cock with an Audi. biggrin

Milky400

1,960 posts

180 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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For my sins i had a bmw (brought cheap and sold at profit the local dealer wanted 188quid plus vat to change the oil, apparently its special oil!!!!!laugh

DonkeyApple

56,056 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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lazyitus said:
Ant. said:
lazyitus said:
Quinny said:
Funny thing is though... I don't care how good a Merc, BMW, Porsche etc is or how cheap it is...

I still wouldn't want to own one....

If I couldn't have a TVR I'd have a Cobra or a Westfield or an old TR6..... But that modern stuff does nowt for me...... They've got no soul
Unless it's a BMW - they often have an R Sole in them.

Edited by lazyitus on Thursday 22 April 12:31
Oi !!!!! redcard
hehe

I'm as guilty - I am a cock with an Audi. biggrin
Isn't an Audi the only acceptable way for a Griff owner to get a coffee holder?

jonnylayze

1,640 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Marlon said:
jonnylayze said:
This hits the nail on the head for me - there is nothing like the Griffith now.
Having owned a Griff for 7 years I have a big soft-spot for it. But £30k? Not on your nelly!

With regard to "no ABS, no TC, no airbags etc", consider that you can just about get into a Noble M400 for £30k. Having owned a Noble too, the Griff (or any TVR) will only pip it on the V8 bellow and chiselled good looks wink

But... if V8-bellow-and-chiselled-good-looks is your bag then you can pick up an SL55 for less than £30k. Now that really does make a £30k Griff look expensive.

For less than £30k you could buy a 2002 SL55 and get DMS to lower it and give it the best part of 600 BHP, which REALLY REALLY makes a £30k Griff look expensive!

I would buy a Griff again, but as others have said, a "Griff is is Griff is a Griff". And you can get a very tidy one for £15k.
I think the point is that the values are on the rise because if you look at what else you can get for the money, they're under valued. The Griffith is iconic - it is our Healey 3 or AC Cobra and you only have to look at the value of a Healey (the Cobra is an extreme case) to see that the Griffith is under-valued IMO.

Whether the Fernhurst car is worth twice as much as a Griffith 500 in good condition is another matter entirely but people will always pay a premium for the best cars.

No SL is a TVR - they cater for different markets. If you wanted an SL, a TVR would probably disappoint, and vice versa.





Edited by jonnylayze on Thursday 22 April 17:46

lockhart flawse

2,045 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Mercedes SL values are irrelevant to Griffith values. Thousands of SLs have been made but very few Griffiths. The Griffith is a certain type of British sports car in the tradition of the Healey and Cobra that appeals to the enthusiast whilst the SL is for retired Golfists or middle-aged newly-separated/recently divorced men on the pull. And footballers.

Presumably the £28,000 SE sold then....

I think the SE Griffith will be worth more than the A-H in the not too far distant future but agree it will never reach Cobra levels.

L.F.

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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lockhart flawse said:

...... whilst the SL is for retired Golfists or middle-aged newly-separated/recently divorced men on the pull.
L.F.
Are you trying to say an SL is like a Chimp ? wink

phib

4,469 posts

261 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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if you think 32k is bad just wait until the advertise no.100 that they have !! probably circa 40k - 50k is my guess and I am sure someone will pay it.


Griff's are only going one way imho

Phib

Edited by phib on Thursday 22 April 21:57

macdeb

8,531 posts

257 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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I like Griffs', I really do! [had two of 'em] but even I wouldn't pay that much for one. Still, it's their money I suppose. [the last as I recall were up for 38k new]
Now I would probably spend 32k on one [if i had the dosh] with a blown LS of some sort, or AJP, or,,,,,,,cloud9

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 22 April 22:16

zippy500

1,883 posts

271 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Isn't there a 101?

I seem to remember years a go, within weeks of getting his SE, an owner had it torched by some scumbags and the factory built another for him. Not sure if they reused his number or gave it 101.

SonicHedgeHog

2,539 posts

184 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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The Austin Healey comparison is a good one. They cost a flippin' fortune now and in a few years the Griff will be the same. The great thing for Griff owners is that all the models are basically the same so it wont just be the last 100 that will go up in value.

Comparisons with cars like the SL are irrelevant. If someone offered a one billion bhp SL for the price of a Griff I still wouldn't be interested. Griffs, and TVRs in general, offer a unique experience the like of which we will never see again.

JR

12,722 posts

260 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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zippy500 said:
Isn't there a 101?
Yes, they tended not to build number 13s.

DonkeyApple

56,056 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
The Austin Healey comparison is a good one. They cost a flippin' fortune now and in a few years the Griff will be the same. The great thing for Griff owners is that all the models are basically the same so it wont just be the last 100 that will go up in value.

Comparisons with cars like the SL are irrelevant. If someone offered a one billion bhp SL for the price of a Griff I still wouldn't be interested. Griffs, and TVRs in general, offer a unique experience the like of which we will never see again.
And would it be fair to say that the ones which will be most valuable will be the ones which have not been modified in any way?

There's an interesting thought. How many truly original, as God intended, Griffs are there? Plus, at present modded ones are possibly fetching more but would this factor end up switching?

Would an Aston in original state fetch more than one with a load of different bits fitted to it? Once you start getting into real classic territory then I suspect that originality starts to become a keen factor.

900T-R

20,404 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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DonkeyApple said:
There's an interesting thought. How many truly original, as God intended, Griffs are there? Plus, at present modded ones are possibly fetching more but would this factor end up switching?
How many TVRs left the factory as God intended anyway? As far as I'm concerned even latter-day TVRs are 'kit cars' to an extent as they were conceptually brilliant, but only 95% finished as delivered to the customer.

Show me a punter who prefers a Grim on standard suspension and I'll show you someone who is scared of their car and wants to polish it in their garage rather than driving the wheels off it.