Great Service from Phil at PR Wood
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As some of you know unfortunately my Griff died during the James Staines Memorial Meet in Southend earlier this month. I said I would post up here when the car was back up and running.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The car was running fine, driving along in convoy and then spluttered and cut out. Many thanks for Dave in the purple chim for coming back to assist and help with swapping various parts from his car to try and fix the problem and Phil from PR Woods for also coming back to assist. Basic roadside testing identified that the fuel pump was not priming and the ECU fault reader was not getting a signal from the ECU.
Phil dropped me off down the seafront so I didn't miss the meet and offered to either recover the car home or back to his workshop. I decided to get the car recovered back to PR Woods. Phil recovered the car for me after the meet and then dropped me back home... Top service!
The issue was diagnosed as a bad earth connection to the ECU. Here are the two earth wires in question which Phil removed from the loom and replaced:
![](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vv0FKn9SGds/UCwVz0ko1zI/AAAAAAAAZlM/UBBYEsj0beo/s800/2012-08-15%2520ECU%2520Earth%2520Wire%252002.jpg)
![](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I0W-MRsAzug/UCwVzfCFMlI/AAAAAAAAZlE/qihduQNYXjc/s800/2012-08-15%2520ECU%2520Earth%2520Wire%252001.jpg)
I did notice a strong smell of burning when the car broke down and the failed earth connection and melted wires has confirmed this. In addition to replacing the failed wires in the loom he has also fitted a battery cut off switch so if a similar issue where to occur power could isolated to prevent any further damage and minimise any fire risk.
Excellent service and very reasonably priced. Thanks Phil![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
Matthew
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The car was running fine, driving along in convoy and then spluttered and cut out. Many thanks for Dave in the purple chim for coming back to assist and help with swapping various parts from his car to try and fix the problem and Phil from PR Woods for also coming back to assist. Basic roadside testing identified that the fuel pump was not priming and the ECU fault reader was not getting a signal from the ECU.
Phil dropped me off down the seafront so I didn't miss the meet and offered to either recover the car home or back to his workshop. I decided to get the car recovered back to PR Woods. Phil recovered the car for me after the meet and then dropped me back home... Top service!
The issue was diagnosed as a bad earth connection to the ECU. Here are the two earth wires in question which Phil removed from the loom and replaced:
![](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vv0FKn9SGds/UCwVz0ko1zI/AAAAAAAAZlM/UBBYEsj0beo/s800/2012-08-15%2520ECU%2520Earth%2520Wire%252002.jpg)
![](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I0W-MRsAzug/UCwVzfCFMlI/AAAAAAAAZlE/qihduQNYXjc/s800/2012-08-15%2520ECU%2520Earth%2520Wire%252001.jpg)
I did notice a strong smell of burning when the car broke down and the failed earth connection and melted wires has confirmed this. In addition to replacing the failed wires in the loom he has also fitted a battery cut off switch so if a similar issue where to occur power could isolated to prevent any further damage and minimise any fire risk.
Excellent service and very reasonably priced. Thanks Phil
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Matthew
Phil did explain to me what had happened, it all made sense at the time but I have slept since then so I am sure if I try and recall it I would get it wrong and look stupid... suffice to say bad earth and melted cables = ![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Phil did some preliminary diagnostics on the car and determined that the fault was indeed the loom as we suspected. At that point I wasn't actually expecting the car back any time soon. Last time I had a fault with the loom it took a long time to find the fault.
Yes I will be at the lodge later later fella![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Phil did some preliminary diagnostics on the car and determined that the fault was indeed the loom as we suspected. At that point I wasn't actually expecting the car back any time soon. Last time I had a fault with the loom it took a long time to find the fault.
Yes I will be at the lodge later later fella
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still waiting to get my Griff sorted from the Growl ... Grrrrrr!!!!!!
not helped by company going into administraion and losing my job withina 2 weeks of the Growl,...... just getting frustrated with Government office who are sort out statutary redunadancy etc..... (looking at it as a Brucy bonus and spending a good wedge on the car.... new suspension (again),further induction upgrades, another remap and poss diff injectors (again))
not helped by company going into administraion and losing my job withina 2 weeks of the Growl,...... just getting frustrated with Government office who are sort out statutary redunadancy etc..... (looking at it as a Brucy bonus and spending a good wedge on the car.... new suspension (again),further induction upgrades, another remap and poss diff injectors (again))
Oh no sorry to hear about your job fella. I hope you managed to get sorted out, that sounds like a bit of a nightmare.
I am going down the Mark Adams / ACT route with mine with the Bosch AFM and Bosch red top injectors etc. If you are looking to keep the 14CUX Mark is your man although I hear that Austec can now map 14CUX as well. Dom at TVR Power has that new MBE ECU which looks good. As always there are many different avenues to choose from. What are you looking at doing with yours tuning wise?
Regarding suspension as you know I went for the Mk4 Bilstiens for my car. Simple OEM quality shocks with no adjustment.. fit and forget. The 13 year old Bilstien shocks fitted by the factory at time of manufacture have never leaked and still performed admirably considering their age hence why I went for same again.
I am going down the Mark Adams / ACT route with mine with the Bosch AFM and Bosch red top injectors etc. If you are looking to keep the 14CUX Mark is your man although I hear that Austec can now map 14CUX as well. Dom at TVR Power has that new MBE ECU which looks good. As always there are many different avenues to choose from. What are you looking at doing with yours tuning wise?
Regarding suspension as you know I went for the Mk4 Bilstiens for my car. Simple OEM quality shocks with no adjustment.. fit and forget. The 13 year old Bilstien shocks fitted by the factory at time of manufacture have never leaked and still performed admirably considering their age hence why I went for same again.
MPoxon said:
Phil did explain to me what had happened, it all made sense at the time but I have slept since then so I am sure if I try and recall it I would get it wrong and look stupid... suffice to say bad earth and melted cables = ![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Phil did some preliminary diagnostics on the car and determined that the fault was indeed the loom as we suspected. At that point I wasn't actually expecting the car back any time soon. Last time I had a fault with the loom it took a long time to find the fault.
Yes I will be at the lodge later later fella![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
Did he do a like for like swap of the wire? Or, did he replace with a thicker gauge? Do you know if anything else was faulty?![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Phil did some preliminary diagnostics on the car and determined that the fault was indeed the loom as we suspected. At that point I wasn't actually expecting the car back any time soon. Last time I had a fault with the loom it took a long time to find the fault.
Yes I will be at the lodge later later fella
![thumbup](/inc/images/thumbup.gif)
CHIMPDREAMER said:
Did he do a like for like swap of the wire? Or, did he replace with a thicker gauge? Do you know if anything else was faulty?
From what I remember the earth had come loose and these two wires melted together because of the lack of earth. I believe Phil trimmed back and replaced the damaged section like for like. Running a whole length of thicker cable may be a bit of a task. As it was Phil said the dash had to come out.It was just those two wires that were faulty. I have subsequently replaced the two relays for piece of mind and carry the two old ones as spares in the boot.
Lets hope yours is just the relays!
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