Rangie 3.9 Fuel Consuption! The Big Gulp!

[RedLeicester]

YamR1V64motion said:

RedLeicester said:

Likewise I have an L322 - far bigger and heavier and with the BMW 4.4 engine, and have averaged 19.9 over the last 10,000 miles. Yes it is a case of welcome to the V8, but also flies in the face of the log-burning lobby who get around 24 out of their TD6s, which is more than cancelled out by the extra 15p it costs to buy the oil in the first place..... muhahahahaha. Sod global warming, save the V8!

when i drove a family membbers TD6 about for a while i only managed about 21MPG mostly because i had to plant my foot to the floor everywhere to get it to move, when i buy one it will definatly be the 4.4, with the classic my 3.9 only managed about 15 MPG so im sorry to say, welcom to V8 ownership

Really scary isn't it! The so-called "economical" diesel really proves to be nothing of the sort....

[mondayo]

I'm quite interested in a Rangie, but put off by the MPG.

What do people think of getting one with LPG? Avoid them at all cost, or that they're ok?

eg.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/468424.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/374638.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/480010.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/426998.htm

thanks

[RedLeicester]

See the other thread about Rangies on LPG....

[YamR1V64motion]

RedLeicester said:

YamR1V64motion said:

RedLeicester said:

Likewise I have an L322 - far bigger and heavier and with the BMW 4.4 engine, and have averaged 19.9 over the last 10,000 miles. Yes it is a case of welcome to the V8, but also flies in the face of the log-burning lobby who get around 24 out of their TD6s, which is more than cancelled out by the extra 15p it costs to buy the oil in the first place..... muhahahahaha. Sod global warming, save the V8!

when i drove a family membbers TD6 about for a while i only managed about 21MPG mostly because i had to plant my foot to the floor everywhere to get it to move, when i buy one it will definatly be the 4.4, with the classic my 3.9 only managed about 15 MPG so im sorry to say, welcom to V8 ownership

Really scary isn't it! The so-called "economical" diesel really proves to be nothing of the sort....

i agree, i seem to always be very anti the TD6, not that i hate them just i dont really see the point in having one, the TD V8 from what i gather is a completly different story though.

[baggiebird]

I think your fuel consumption figures are a little misleading. A diesel vehicle doing 24 mpg with diesel at £1.229 per gallon is costing 23p/mile. A petrol vehicle doing 19 mpg with petrol at £1.079 per gallon is costing 25.78p/mile

[RedLeicester]

baggiebird said:

I think your fuel consumption figures are a little misleading. A diesel vehicle doing 24 mpg with diesel at £1.229 per gallon is costing 23p/mile. A petrol vehicle doing 19 mpg with petrol at £1.079 per gallon is costing 25.78p/mile

Now when you factor in the substantial performance difference and the quieter cabin - the point being made is not that the V8 IS more economical, but that the supposed "superior" economy of the diesel is a virtually inconsequential difference, as your calculations have just proven - at which point taking into account the substantial second-hand purchase delta (like for like V8s are often £5k or so cheaper than the diesels) it just becomes farcical.

Edited by RedLeicester on Monday 26th May 17:16

[YamR1V64motion]

there was a V8 vouge on autotrader recently that was sub £15k with only 50000 miles, i dont give the early L322s much longer before thier at the £10k mark, i would rather have increased fuel bills and save money on the initial purchase and have a quicker, smoother car myself.

[RedLeicester]

YamR1V64motion said:

there was a V8 vouge on autotrader recently that was sub £15k with only 50000 miles, i dont give the early L322s much longer before thier at the £10k mark, i would rather have increased fuel bills and save money on the initial purchase and have a quicker, smoother car myself.

Hear hear!

[ingrowtn]

mondayo said:

I'm quite interested in a Rangie, but put off by the MPG.

What do people think of getting one with LPG? Avoid them at all cost, or that they're ok?

eg.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/468424.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/374638.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/480010.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/426998.htm

thanks

This is mine: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/364143.htm

Love LPG. If unsure or hesitant, the best advice I can give is make usre the LPG kit has been fitted by a reputable installer and that it has evidence of being serviced properly at the prescribed intervals. There are lots of posts about which LPG kit to go for, most seem to say a multipoint sequential system. If you find a car and are unsure, have a local LPG specialist installer check it over for piece of mind.

Make sure the car has been registered at DVLA as alternate fuel.

Avoid LPG converted cars, absolutely not:
Performance difference: Negligible
Economy difference: Negligible

Servicing costs: Extra, the LPG system needs to be serviced separately to that of the main engine. Mine requires servicing every 10,000 miles. Last cost of this was £130 inc vat & filters.

MOT: You won't believe the figures from the emissions tests for %CO2 and the other thing they test for (sorry can't remember the name for it).

Now for the best bit. My driving is mostly town driving, I get (in round numbers) 12 mpg physical. My fuel costs me, from a garage forecourt, 52.9p per litre. Petrol this morning was 114.9p and diesel 127.9p. You can buy LPG cheaper from some bottled gas places.

If I was driving a petrol car, town driving would have to be more than 26mpg and for a diesel 29mpg for the RR to be more expensive. Compare that to a 2.0l 4 door saloon. Co-incidentally my previous car, a 2.0l Chrysler Neon did 26mpg round town motoring. Hmmm.... Chrysler Neon or Range Rover, let me think for a minute!

On the motorway, equivalent 35mpg petrol and 40mpg diesel for me. LPG is available at many motorway services, and in any event a full tank will get me easily from Manchester to London.

As you can see I fully extol the virtue of an LPG RR. It is only a change in personal circumstances that is the reson why mine is up for sale.