Pick one of 3 free options on Land Rover Approved Used

Pick one of 3 free options on Land Rover Approved Used

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soupdragon1

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Thursday 16th November 2023
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I'm looking at a RRS and they've an offer on at the minute, pick one of:

A free service
£500 off the purchase price
An extra years warranty

The extra years warranty sounds like a no brainer however, its a premium RAC warranty, rather than Land Rover. The chap in the dealership put it in, along with my details, and on his screen, I could see it was valued at £650

Any thoughts on this, as in, would it be any good?

As a general point, you typically pay a premium buying LR approved used. Whats the consensus on buying from LR rather than a non manufacturer dealer? I'm inclined to go LR approved used, simply because of the lower risk of being burned. Is it worth the premium you pay?


soupdragon1

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LooneyTunes said:
When you get to making a claim, the LR warranty isn’t really LR… it’s run by a third party.

Given how slow things seem, I’d be tempted to suggest that you can’t choose between them and would like all three.
Thanks for replies all and to address this particular post, I did indeed manage to get all 3 lol

I asked for the warranty to begin with, then went through the 'let me talk to my manager bit' on price and got £500 off. While I didn't quite get the free service, there is only 7k since last service but only a few months away on the time element of the service, so I suggested that it can't really be approved used and then me arrive back at the dealership in a few months as it needs serviced. So it's getting a service before I get it

Re the above post, insurance is £874. Not cheap of course, but not the deal breaker price that seems to be post code specific. I'm in N Ireland.

The car?

I need something with a towbar approved used ideally and my 1st choice was Disco 5 but it's like hens teeth at my budget (£35k)

LR Belfast listed a RRS 2016 HSE SDV6 with 60k miles for £26k which I found alarming as they don't typically list that age. Once I seen it had the electric towbar, I was intrigued. I was working right beside the dealership the day it was listed so I called over.

Negotiated the deal, deposit and car will be ready next week. They are refurbing the Alloys up, a front bumper scratch and servicing it.

Really pleased with the spec. Towbar was the main one but it also has £6k options overall, including the fancy suede type headlining, body coloured side sills, panoramic roof, 4 zone climate, black veneer inserts, noble paddle shifters, incontrol WiFi and the premium metallic paint carpathian grey.

The interior is ivory uppers with the black seats which I really like.

So all in, £25.5k. For here in NI, it's a great price compared to back street dealers with the benefit of LR approved used.

I'm just wondering, at £60k miles, the brake discs should have been replaced at some point? And a new timing belt at this age/mileage?

soupdragon1

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Monday 20th November 2023
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cheers

yeah, discs and pads aren't cheap these days as I've just replaced all discs and pads on my BMW X6 is preparation for selling it privately, not much change out of £500 and thats before fitting costs. I'll inspect them on this RRS when the car is finished being prepped and ask servicing if they've ever been done.

After doing a little bit more digging over the weekend, I'm wondering what will happen when the car gets serviced before handover, as promised.

The thing is, we've agreed £25.5k price, 2016 HSE with 60k miles and £6k options. I'm happy of course, and when I put the reg into Motorway the day I called into Landrover, the offer was £20.6k. So I guess that'll be there or thereabouts close to its cap clean price. I would have expected LR to send this car to auction (I've been watching auction listings here in NI for a while now, as I'm allowed to buy as a member of the public over here) so I guess if they did that, they would have got £21k ballpark, which is probably somewhere close to their trade in offer.

Because the car was on a private plate, I've now been able to see that the new owner is in a RRS again, so it looks very much like a trade in vehicle. So maybe due to condition and lowish miles for age, they thought they would get a bit extra via Approved used sale.

This is the thing though. The cars last service was after its 6th birthday but before its 7th. The car is now past its 7th birthday, but not its eighth. Which probably means it still needs its major 7 year service plus the mileage related items. That'll be:

Replace all flexible brake hoses
Renew transfer box oil
Renew locking differential oil
Renew front and rear camshaft timing belts, tensioners and tensioner bolt

Plus the regular service, and potentially new brake discs if they've never been replace

They are also refurbing the alloys and doing a paint correction.

By the time that's all added up, they may have been better off just sending it to auction. It hasn't escaped me that while we've agreed on the purchase and I can see they removed it from sale online, I still haven't got the car. Kind of worried that they might look at all the above, plus the fact they are going to warranty it as approved used, and maybe just think screw it, we'll just get rid at auction. Considering the margin they are going to get on retail price minus approved used preparation spend, versus auction price, they might change their mind.

Dunno, it just seems odd that they would retail this car. When I look on autotrader and filter Approve used, there are zero RRS at 2016 age. So why just the one that I'm buying? Hmmnnnn.....

Edited by soupdragon1 on Monday 20th November 10:37

soupdragon1

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Monday 20th November 2023
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alfabeat said:
Have you actually confirmed with them that they will be doing all that as part of the service?

"Replace all flexible brake hoses
Renew transfer box oil
Renew locking differential oil
Renew front and rear camshaft timing belts, tensioners and tensioner bolt"

Perhaps they were just thinking just a quick oil change and check over......
Yeah, that's where my head is that too. Why would they do all that work.

They are offering the standard LR approved used 1 yr warranty followed by a 2nd year warranty, RAC premium plus or something like that. The question then becomes, how can they sell a car with those 2 warranties, knowing that the car isn't serviced to the manufacturers standard. The warranties would be null and void as soon as I drive away would they not. So in order to sell the car as approved used, and with a 2nd year warranty, the car would need to meet the manufacturers servicing guidelines the moment I drive away in it.

I'll be keeping a close eye on how it all develops. I emailed the sales guy today and got no response. Maybe on a day off, but no autonote reply so I might pick up the phone tomorrow to see what's happening.

soupdragon1

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Bobupndown said:
You do realise the electric towbar will fail, expensively?
If its being sold as approved used it has to have all the required service items completed, otherwise I wouldn't touch it.
Didn't know about towbar issues actually - thats another thing on the list to investigate!

Might turn out to be a bit of a game of cat and mouse on the servicing. If for any reason they don't supply the car with the big ticket service items all complete, I can then remind them that as part of their approved used offer, they are offering the next service free, so I'll just take them up on their offer straight out of the gate so they may as well do it now. Hopefully it doesn't come to that though.

soupdragon1

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Friday 24th November 2023
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To finish off. Happy with the car and purchase now agreed, picking up next week and they are going to put a fresh MOT on it as the current MOT has expired.

Previous owner had bought it from new from same the dealer I am buying off, and its had all its servicing done there too, so its been their car from the beginning which bodes well for my warranty period.

The big question marks I had around servicing were confirmed as no issue, and its actually had its gearbox oil replaced in 2021 and they serviced it according to the manufacturer spec just this week, so all the timing belts and stuff I was concerned about were all done.

The previous owner kept it in good shape, excellent condition for the year and mileage and the while driver seat can sometimes look a bit tired from a few adverts I've looked at, this one is pretty good.

Towbar was a must for me and it works fine (for now!) and I'm pleased with the spec. Its actually very close to how I would have specced it from the brochure, as I really like light ivory interiors which it has, except the black seats which I think is a great set up as the seats are the hardest bit to keep clean on a light coloured interior.

The bits I wish I had but don't, are the heated steering wheel and the upgraded sound system. The bass is virtually non existent and I would describe it as like listening to the music through a small rear living room speaker for surround sound. Perfectly capable of producing clear and crisp audio, but just lacking in any big depth of sound. At a guess, I would put the frequency range at around 90hz +/- 3db. The system would actually be decent enough if it just had a subwoofer. Infotainment system overall is uneventful, a bit slow. I'm just glad its young enough that its got the heated seats button build into the temperature guage, because a little bit older, and you have to wait for full boot up of the infotainment before you can use the heated seats.

Other than those 2 options, its got a good spec overall. The glass roof is really really nice, and while I personally wouldn't have paid £1k for the fancy headlining (Aliston or something like that) it feels and looks great. I wouldn't have paid £1k for the 4 way climate either, but I'm glad the original owner did. They also added the body coloured door bottoms, rather than the plastic ones,and it does look nice painted.

So overall, when you consider how customisable Range Rovers can be, I was pleased to get a used one that isn't a million miles away from how I would spec it myself - and all for £25.5k with 2 years warranty. Yes, its 7 years old now with 61k but I think its a great deal all things considered and pleased with the result.

I'll put some pics up shortly.

soupdragon1

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Friday 24th November 2023
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Austin_Metro said:
I think that sounds a lot of car for the money. Look forward to the photos.

Are you the boat trading guy? That was good thread!
Yes lol, that's me!

As you'll know already then, I'm always trying to get a good bang for buck and I think this RRS is that too. I didn't mention the drive, but it drives very well and when you know the technology underneath giving you that renowned smooth driving characteristic, you feel it's good value for money. It's a lovely cabin, quiet and incredibly comfortable on the move.

Will get the pics up smile

soupdragon1

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We had the MKI RRS for 4 years before the now outgoing X6 and in my view, I still think that MKI car looks good, despite its 2005 design. So this MK2 I like a lot and I think it retains the MKI heritage in it's overall silhouette.

With the silver wheels and grey paint, it has a more classic type of look compared to some more sporty looking variants and I find that look appealing personally.

Key difference between MKI MKII is the aluminium chassis and behind the wheel, it's a very significant improvement in how it drives. Enormous difference. The interior is a step up in quality too but overall, I like that it's very obvious the MKI and MKII are very clearly related. I like when manufacturers do this, rather than wholesale changes to the design but calling it by the same name anyway.



The interior I love. Previous owner went for the black wood inserts which helps it look modern still and I think it's a good fit




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I'll never get the benefit of the big glass roof but I hope the kids like it!



It's hard not to sign on the dotted line when you take one of these for a drive. Yes, the reliability isn't a strength, but you have to weigh that up against the quality of overall product and it's without doubt a very nice vehicle in every way. That's why so many people buy them I guess.

soupdragon1

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Saturday 25th November 2023
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Bobupndown said:
Beautiful car, wish you well with it.
I bought my Freelander 2 as an approved used LR at 4 years old and 17k miles from Charles Hurst LR. It was strong money (for me anyway, even though it was their cheapest used car on sale at that time) having said that it was immaculate and came with 4 new tyres and new discs and pads all round. 6 years on I've still got it, now on 113k and looking and driving great.
This is my 2nd time using them and they've been good. Back in 2012, LR were round the back of the complex and we bought a 3 year old RRS. I think it was £22k at the time. A 2.7 diesel. I'm pretty sure the brand new price of that car was £38k back then, as I remember my surprise when the MKII launched at over £60k. It was a hell of a premium to trade up.

Even when we changed in 2016, the 2013 MKII was commanding very high residuals so we moved to BMW instead.

Overall, on both occasions the car presented very well from LR and well maintained pre handover with good discs, tyres etc.

Funny, when I was in the showroom, I looked at all the new models. Damn, they are so nice and damn, they've went up yet another big price bracket again too!

soupdragon1

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Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Crumpet said:
I’m getting seriously tempted by a middle-aged RRS but it’s knowing when to jump in so you catch the market at the bottom. Insurance for my postcode has gone weird and where a full fat or RRS was £2500 in the summer it’s now down about £1600 - still a lot but I can almost stomach it. I reckon February or March might be the time to take the plunge.
The facelift 2018 to 2022 are still commanding a premium. Great value below 2018 depending on how you like the facelift features. 2016 brought a mild infotainment upgrade, so you can do things like start the heated seats before the infotainment boots up, plus the graphics are refreshed. 2017 MY brought the 10 inch infotainment, so an upgrade on the 2016 that I bought in terms of how it looks and operates.

Then of course, it got the comprehensive infotainment upgrade in 2018 with the fancy climate control and tilting 10 inch screen, plus new lights, and different exhausts etc.

I was happy with the 2016 and paying mid £25k area but as you go up each milestone in terms of getting new features/looks, its always that 'for just a bit more, you can have.....'

2015 to 2016 brings something new, then 2017, then 2018, then you've the newer engines post 2018 facelift launch......next thing you know you're shopping yourself into a 2022 SVR lol biggrin

soupdragon1

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Monday 4th December 2023
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Still don't have my car. Its bought and paid for and was supposed to get it last week. They were putting a fresh MOT on it, and it passed that with no issues on Thursday, but apparently the tester said the fuel tank cradle was showing signs of rust, so they've decided to replace that now as well. We paid for the car on Thursday and said we would pick it up Friday or Saturday, and were told no problem.

It all sounds a bit odd, that it passed the MOT with no faults or advisories yet they pointed out the fuel tank cradle. So I'm waiting to hear when they are going to fit it and when I can get the car. It will be interesting if they itemise all this on the service paperwork as outside of the regular service that they done, they've also done the timing belt and associated 7 year 'big service' items, refurbished alloys, paint touch ups and now this fuel tank cradle. I asked to collect it on Saturday and to do the fuel tank cradle at a more convenient time, but they wouldn't let me. Said its going to need another valet again too!? Its just been done lol

On the one hand I'm pleased that they are prepping the car and doing this stuff, but on the otherhand, I'm wondering how I'm not allowed to drive a car that I've paid for, and thats literally just passed its MOT without issue. I've got the V5 and the MOT certificate in my hand as I type this lol! But no fking car keys!

WTH??!

soupdragon1

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Monday 4th December 2023
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Austin_Metro said:
soupdragon1 said:
Still don't have my car. Its bought and paid for and was supposed to get it last week. They were putting a fresh MOT on it, and it passed that with no issues on Thursday, but apparently the tester said the fuel tank cradle was showing signs of rust, so they've decided to replace that now as well. We paid for the car on Thursday and said we would pick it up Friday or Saturday, and were told no problem.

It all sounds a bit odd, that it passed the MOT with no faults or advisories yet they pointed out the fuel tank cradle. So I'm waiting to hear when they are going to fit it and when I can get the car. It will be interesting if they itemise all this on the service paperwork as outside of the regular service that they done, they've also done the timing belt and associated 7 year 'big service' items, refurbished alloys, paint touch ups and now this fuel tank cradle. I asked to collect it on Saturday and to do the fuel tank cradle at a more convenient time, but they wouldn't let me. Said its going to need another valet again too!? Its just been done lol

On the one hand I'm pleased that they are prepping the car and doing this stuff, but on the otherhand, I'm wondering how I'm not allowed to drive a car that I've paid for, and thats literally just passed its MOT without issue. I've got the V5 and the MOT certificate in my hand as I type this lol! But no fking car keys!

WTH??!
Sounds a bit strange. Can you pop round unannounced and see it?

With the silence I’d just assumed you’d got it, upgraded the decking and sold it again for a tidy profit before moving up to a DBX. Like with the boats?!
Ha ha!

This one's a keeper. Boat life has been terrible this year. Blue green algae is killing the Loughs and we don't go far really, just drop anchor and swim......only it's not safe to swim. And it literally kills dogs too. No kayaking or paddle boarding either. So my boat has been an ornament 2nd half of the year.

At least I've got a suitable car to tow it smile

Actually, no, just remembered I don't have the car either lol

soupdragon1

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Friday 8th December 2023
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Crumpet said:
I’m getting seriously tempted by a middle-aged RRS but it’s knowing when to jump in so you catch the market at the bottom. Insurance for my postcode has gone weird and where a full fat or RRS was £2500 in the summer it’s now down about £1600 - still a lot but I can almost stomach it. I reckon February or March might be the time to take the plunge.
Quite a few headwinds impacting the residuals, namely insurance but also credit costs. It was either 12.9% or 11.9% when I asked in the dealership. Not sure what bank loans are at the minute but we sold some shares to pay for ours due to the cost of credit.

Hearing that mortgage rates are softening and whether that translates to bank loans/car finance remains to be seen but yeah, its hard to time exactly.

This is an old article, but it says January is the best time to buy a used car, followed by February and December. I've not seen any December special offers from Land Rover over and above what I received in November (extra year warranty is what I chose) but I would certainly be stepping foot inside a dealer or 2 come January to see if you can get a good deal.

https://www.businessinsider.com/best-worst-months-...

soupdragon1

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Friday 8th December 2023
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BenS94 said:
I absolutely love mine. Aintree Green with Espresso/Almond interior. I do echo your views on the stereo, I had an Evoque before with the Meridian system as standard and assumed they all came with it. Hopefully someone, somewhere will offer an upgrade of sorts.

Mine is on 81k with full LR/Specialist history including both timing belts on purchase and 4x new Pirelli Scorpion Zero LR Approved tyres. I just straight swapped my X3 30d for it as I liked it,but didn't gel with it like my Evoque.

Insurance is around £900 with Esure, I'm 29 with 7 years no claims in the far north of England.

Very nice, she looks ready for anything with the suspension fully raised smile

I love that wood trim insert, I think I even prefer that one to the black wood inserts I have in mine. There are a few grey/silver insert options from the pre 2018 cars and I think they look a little dated now, whereas the black in mine gives it a bit of a fresher look, and that wood insert in yours is just a timeless trim IMO, especially with the classic look you have going on with the dark green paint and silver wheels.

soupdragon1

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Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Loving the car now it's been on a few trips. Took a drive from my town into the centre of Belfast and back, 40 mile round trip.

While on the motorway, I did some instant MPG tests using the display and at 60mph, it was floating around 44-47mpg then at 70mph, it was 30-33mph, so basically 50% economy hit going an extra 10mph. Quite a difference. So drove at 60mph for the most part plus the city and town traffic to see what combined cycle (ish) MPG I could squeak out of it.

Once home, it was 40.9mpg for 40 miles (28 of those motorway speed) and average speed for the trip was 38mph (Christmas traffic in Belfast city centre brought the average speed down a fair bit I presume) Temperature was 3 degrees, a cold day.

An interesting little test overall. I think with the typical commute, we could net around 33% fuel bill saving by driving at 60 instead of 70 in this car, not far of £1k PA, which would pay for the insurance lol smile

Our X6 was 31mpg, but tbh, always driven at 70mph +

Is it possible to have the discipline to drive at 60mph? Over the 14 motorway miles, you only save 2 minutes travel time, about 15% ish quicker, but 50% more fuel used on MPG.

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to drive at 60. Sure, it takes me 2 mins longer, but is that such a chore, 2 mins added to the commute? It certainly doesn't feel like a chore sitting behind the wheel in such a lovely cabin. Nice and quiet and comfortable, its a nice place to be.

Anyway, bit of a ramble there. Love the interior and the Carpathian grey paint colour. I'll take some more pics but LR Belfast presented the car beautifully. It's in pristine condition for the age. My mum actually though we had bought a brand new one, such was the quality of how we received it.

My only pics since we collected it, the paint really pops under the lights (RRS in it's natural habitat of a Tesco car park lol)




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Wednesday 31st January
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So the car I picked up a couple of months ago was back in LR today to get a part fitted (fuel tank cradle that I had mentioned previously)

Basically, about 8 or 9 weeks for the part to arrive. Was no big deal really as I was still driving away at the car but just goes to show the logistic issues they are having with parts. Its a hell of a cost to swallow if they had to give me a courtesy car while waiting on a part.

When I picked the car up start of December, the sales guy mentioned that he would sort me out with a gift or a fuel fill up when I brought the car back to get the part fitted, due to them not having the part ready. I arrived at 8am this morning but unfortunately no sales team were in at all, just service technicians so I left the car with them and mentioned that the sales guy offered a fuel fill up back in December.

Picked the car up later and noticed they left me some sweets in the cupholder tray smile Oh, they cleaned it too, but they always do that.

I was hoping for a fuel fill up, and I purposely brought the car in running on fumes, with 14 miles range left on the display. Was pleased to see they filled it to the brim with fuel too. Nice!

So while there are clearly issues with parts at the moment, I've got to say the service was excellent. Wasn't holding out much hope to get a free tank of fuel TBH but they did it anyway which was great.

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Silenoz said:
Glad you are still pleased with the car and that they honoured the fuel promise.

It really does look stunning in the colour combination you've got, timelessly classic and understated which I love.
Thanks. The colour, plain alloys and interior is something we love about it.

I really wanted to stand out from the crowd with this car, so I bought the plainest looking one I could find lol wink

Tongue in cheek of course but its sort of half true - so many are black alloys with ghost packs, black packs, stealth packs, I decided to try 'no pack' biggrin

To be perfectly honest, I just needed one with a towbar that wasn't red or white as the missus doesn't like those colours, but delighted with what we ended up with. I think its lovely in the flesh that carpathian grey colour.