Cost of installing phone points

[samrr]

Thanks - yes have sykpe. That make sense now!

By the way (and I will ask our IT guy) but while your here...

What other benifits are ther using this Cat5 stuff? What else can a small business use it for?

CCTV
Door Entry
PC
Phones
Music to speakers?

[lestag]

samrr said:

Dave_ST220 said:

Will you have networked PC's? If you will and they are proposing hard wiring telephone points you are wasting time & ££. As above, flood wire the place with CAT5e/CAT6, that way it will be easy to switch points between voice/data.

Yes we will have about 7 PC's networked to a server.

So the one cable can be used for the PC's and the phones?

No - get two or three cat5e cables run at the same time to two or three outlets at each location. Wired back to a central point (patch panel) then ANY of those outlets can be used for voice OR PC . that way you havea spare if either becomes faulty or you put another workstaton next to it. One outlet could be used to run two or three POT phones (Plain Old Telephone)The other two for PC connections.

[ATM]

samrr said:

Thanks - yes have sykpe. That make sense now!

By the way (and I will ask our IT guy) but while your here...

What other benifits are ther using this Cat5 stuff? What else can a small business use it for?

CCTV
Door Entry
PC
Phones
Music to speakers?

You can use Cat5 for pretty much anything. Its just 8 wires [I think] bundled together into one. Then crimped into a socket. So if you want to use 4 for speakers [or 2 for one speaker] then you just need to cut your speaker cable in half and crimp some sockets on yourself and hey presto. Not sure it will be Richer Sounds 10 quid a metre speaker cable quality though obviously.

[samrr]

Ok thanks - thats that sorted.

Instead of starting a new thread - does anyone have any cotacts or reccomendations for electric heater / air con combo fitters in the south east?

[aftermarket]

we use 3cx for our phone lines and have the ability to have unlimited lines coming in and out doesnt cost much either check it out at 3cx.com



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Edited by Big Al. on Saturday 14th August 17:07

[AlunR]

Your IT guy doesn't sound very clued up. What you are after is very standard.

Basically use cat5e throughout to install standard rj45 sockets. 2 per desk minimum. 4 ideal (networked printers etc)

Use voip on your local network to 3CX or similar with SNOM handsets on the desks.

Install a gateway between the phone server and the by lines and voilà you have the start of a highly customisable system.

If your IT guy doesn't know about this stuff then I'd be concerned about what else he doesn't know. Do you have good backup, best value broadband, sensible hardware etc?

I don't normally offer it without a qualification email conversation but I'll happily give you 30 minutes on the phone to discuss what you are doing and the route you are taking. It sounds like you might be about to make an expensive mistake. Drop mr your phone number via message and I'll call you back sometime on Monday (tomorrow)

Ps I'm normally far more lighthearted than this but you might be about to cost yourself a lot of money!!!

[AlunR]

Your IT guy doesn't sound very clued up. What you are after is very standard.

Basically use cat5e throughout to install standard rj45 sockets. 2 per desk minimum. 4 ideal (networked printers etc)

Use voip on your local network to 3CX or similar with SNOM handsets on the desks.

Install a gateway between the phone server and the BT lines and voilà you have the start of a highly customisable system.

If your IT guy doesn't know about this stuff then I'd be concerned about what else he doesn't know. Do you have good backup, best value broadband, sensible hardware etc?

I don't normally offer it without a qualification email conversation but I'll happily give you 30 minutes on the phone to discuss what you are doing and the route you are taking. It sounds like you might be about to make an expensive mistake. Drop mr your phone number via message and I'll call you back sometime on Monday (tomorrow)

Ps I'm normally far more lighthearted than this but you might be about to cost yourself a lot of money!!!

[samrr]

Thanks Alan! I'll send you a PM.

[jon-]

Dave_ST220 said:

OK, work out how many phones/PC's you will have, double this number and that is how many points you ***should*** install.

Best advice of the thread Work out every possible point needed, now and in the future, then double it. Seriously.

[lestag]

jon- said:

Dave_ST220 said:

OK, work out how many phones/PC's you will have, double this number and that is how many points you ***should*** install.

Best advice of the thread Work out every possible point needed, now and in the future, then double it. Seriously.

Nope you so last century (from another thread.. admittedly a home cabling thread...)

GreigM said:

did you consider homeplugs? Could have had faster, cheaper, quicker. Putting in CAT5 is somewhat becoming an outdated approach.

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[jon-]

lestag said:

jon- said:

Dave_ST220 said:

OK, work out how many phones/PC's you will have, double this number and that is how many points you ***should*** install.

Best advice of the thread Work out every possible point needed, now and in the future, then double it. Seriously.

Nope you so last century (from another thread.. admittedly a home cabling thread...)

GreigM said:

did you consider homeplugs? Could have had faster, cheaper, quicker. Putting in CAT5 is somewhat becoming an outdated approach.

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Not a chance. Home plugs are great for home networking, but there isn't the bandwidth across the limited power cabling if you need a lot of points.

You're calling us last century, you're about a century ahead of yourself

[lestag]

jon- said:

Not a chance. Home plugs are great for home networking, but there isn't the bandwidth across the limited power cabling if you need a lot of points.

You're calling us last century, you're about a century ahead of yourself

OOPS forgot to add to my orginal post , it was in jest