Hacked? and debit card fraud.

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Ian_S

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246 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Can anyone please help i'm at a serious loss here as to how this could have happened, and in complete shock.

Tuesday morning i get a call from my bank saying there was suspicious activity on my account and did i recognise a list of transactions to a gambling co, pbl or something, i didn't. they said they would look into it and try and refund once gone from my account.

yesterday i see on my online statement that there were a number of £100 deposits, then £150, then 2x £1000 to pponline, which i recognised as paddypower as i have had an account for years.

i phoned paddypower to raise the alarm that someone had used my debit card with another account, and when speaking to them discovered it had gone through my account. £1000 bet on a tennis match on sunday and then all money into poker. I never bet more than £10 and have never played poker, so i would have thought they would flag it as suspicious.

Somehow someone has got my cv2 number from the back of my bank card and my paddypower password, then stolen all this money.

paddypower say there is no sign of an account takeover and it looks as if all done from my pc. I was in all day sunday when this happened and noone had access to my pc. the bank are giving me a telephone interview tomorrow lunch.

i just can't understand how this has happened, or how to prevent it again.(paddypower account closed now)

sorry for poor grammar, i'm in complete shock and shaking here, and really cant afford to lose this money.


Mr_S

414 posts

201 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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You didn't get really drunk on Sunday did you?

10JH

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196 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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You should call your bank to alert them as well.

Have you checked your browser history, just to make 100% sure it wasn't done from your computer?

dave-therave

332 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I assume you have good antivirus and firewall software installed?

Arese

21,022 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Wow.

Do you have Anti-Virus on your PC?
Do you have a firewall? Software or Hardware?

Silent1

19,761 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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If you haven't spent it then the bank are obliged to replace it, it's their money not yours that they've lost.

Neil H

15,323 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Get your PC checked for spyware immediately!

Ian_S

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246 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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i have eset nod32 on both laptop and pc, ran a scan on laptop with that and with malwarebytes, running a scan on the main pc which doesn't get used often now, and it's found 3 infiltrations, and still scanning.
i haven't spent the money, but i'm worried it looks like i have as they had my password for paddypower and my cv2 number from the back of my card.

paddypower says it looks like was done from my ip address too which is worrying.

i only have the standard firewalls. Any recomendations?

TuxRacer

13,812 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I wouldn't trust that disk now without wiping it.

Arese

21,022 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Ian_S said:
i have eset nod32 on both laptop and pc, ran a scan on laptop with that and with malwarebytes, running a scan on the main pc which doesn't get used often now, and it's found 3 infiltrations, and still scanning.
i haven't spent the money, but i'm worried it looks like i have as they had my password for paddypower and my cv2 number from the back of my card.

paddypower says it looks like was done from my ip address too which is worrying.

i only have the standard firewalls. Any recomendations?
When you go to the Paddy Power website, do you have to enter login details or have you got them 'saved'? Do you often leave the PC on and walk away from it? What I'm trying to get at is, is it possible that someone has gained access to remote control your PC and spend time on Paddy Power spending your money?

Ian_S

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Thursday 15th July 2010
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Arese said:
Ian_S said:
i have eset nod32 on both laptop and pc, ran a scan on laptop with that and with malwarebytes, running a scan on the main pc which doesn't get used often now, and it's found 3 infiltrations, and still scanning.
i haven't spent the money, but i'm worried it looks like i have as they had my password for paddypower and my cv2 number from the back of my card.

paddypower says it looks like was done from my ip address too which is worrying.

i only have the standard firewalls. Any recomendations?
When you go to the Paddy Power website, do you have to enter login details or have you got them 'saved'? Do you often leave the PC on and walk away from it? What I'm trying to get at is, is it possible that someone has gained access to remote control your PC and spend time on Paddy Power spending your money?
need to enter my login name but firefox saves the password. which means both are stored on the pc.
pc was on all day sunday as we use it to stream downloaded tv programmes

Edited by Ian_S on Thursday 15th July 18:29

Arese

21,022 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Ian_S said:
Arese said:
Ian_S said:
i have eset nod32 on both laptop and pc, ran a scan on laptop with that and with malwarebytes, running a scan on the main pc which doesn't get used often now, and it's found 3 infiltrations, and still scanning.
i haven't spent the money, but i'm worried it looks like i have as they had my password for paddypower and my cv2 number from the back of my card.

paddypower says it looks like was done from my ip address too which is worrying.

i only have the standard firewalls. Any recomendations?
When you go to the Paddy Power website, do you have to enter login details or have you got them 'saved'? Do you often leave the PC on and walk away from it? What I'm trying to get at is, is it possible that someone has gained access to remote control your PC and spend time on Paddy Power spending your money?
need to enter my login name but firefox saves the password. which means both are stored on the pc.
pc was on all day sunday as we use it to stream downloaded tv programmes

Edited by Ian_S on Thursday 15th July 18:29
So it could have been exploited on Sunday. Have a look through your event log (Start/Run/Eventvwr), in the Security log, you should see 'logon' events for people that have logged onto the PC that day, if it's been done through RDP.

Ian_S

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246 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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sunday was when all the bets and poker games were played.
says no events to view. just realised i have logmein installed for use with the iphone, could that have been compromised?

Edited by Ian_S on Thursday 15th July 19:21

Ian_S

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Thursday 15th July 2010
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Still not managed to do a full virus scan or malwarebytes as pc keeps rebooting in the middle of it, ran a virus scan then stopped it when found 3 items and deleted them, then restarted but still rebooting. Been running malwarebytes for over an hour then it rebooted the pc too.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

171 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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That , historically, has been a sign of something nasty on a machine.

With viruses , it was common for them to crash your machine if you tried to log on to an antivirus website.

Drive needs to be analysed via another boot disk.

Cheese Mechanic

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171 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Mr_S said:
You didn't get really drunk on Sunday did you?
Which is why you do not do online betting.

Ian_S

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Thursday 15th July 2010
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Cheese Mechanic said:
That , historically, has been a sign of something nasty on a machine.

With viruses , it was common for them to crash your machine if you tried to log on to an antivirus website.

Drive needs to be analysed via another boot disk.
What do you mean by another boot disk? i'm not that competent sorry.

iAlex

17,036 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Wow - thats some time you're going to have proving it wasn't you - feel for you matey. I have nothing constructive to add other than I really hope it all works out for you.


Arese

21,022 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Ian_S said:
sunday was when all the bets and poker games were played.
says no events to view. just realised i have logmein installed for use with the iphone, could that have been compromised?

Edited by Ian_S on Thursday 15th July 19:21
In theory, anything can be compromised. But, having an application running in the background listening for connections is just another way in. That said, it's likely that Windows already had a connection listening for Remote Desktop.

Personally, I'd backup any documents/images that are critical (these tend not to get infected with virii) and flatten and reinstall Windows. But you will then never really know what happened.

What version of Windows are you running?

If Event Viewer says there are no events to view, then there's something not right there as there are always events to view.

You're not a million miles from me, so if comes to it I may be able to have a look at it for you...

Edited by Arese on Thursday 15th July 20:51

Ian_S

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Thursday 15th July 2010
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There are events to view on event viewer, but non under security.

The virus scan is crashing on the d: drive, (i have a few hds in the pc) so i have tried scanning just that drive and it still crashes, i am now trying to scan the other drives ignoring the d:, to see if they are clear.

Then i think i will need to format the problem drive at a minimum.

Thanks for the offer arese, i may need to take you up on it.