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Greg66 said:
Hmm. But you can't install a new OS in place of an existing one, "underneath" all your installed applications, right? You'd have to install Win10 and then all you apps all over again.
Sounds like a insufficient levels of fun for me. Win7 SP1 suits me just fine.
You can typically upgrade an OS install (so long as its 64bit) and keep all your apps.Sounds like a insufficient levels of fun for me. Win7 SP1 suits me just fine.
RemaL said:
is 10 out now to download or just the beta?
if it is out where can I download it from.
Still quite early on in the process, tbh. Technical preview ends April 15th. Download it from windows insider, hereif it is out where can I download it from.
pcAdvisor said:
Microsoft has stated that Windows 10 will launch "later in the year" in 2015, so we won't get the April release we were hoping for. But it has also said that it will share more about "universal apps" at its annual Build conference in April. The Technical Preview licence runs until April 15 2015, so expect a more complete beta then.
Probably not what you're hoping, but it's all there is for now. Nothing to stop you running it in a vm I wouldn't update your pc with it yet 
Edited by Fetchez la vache on Thursday 22 January 11:56
The way I see it, Windows 7 users have two choices - upgrade for free to Win10 within a year of Win10 being released or else stick with Win7 until it is EoL in January 2020 and then decide what to do (which might by then be to ditch Windows altogether).
Personally, the only things I still use Windows for are playing high-end games and for video editing. By 2020 it could be that I'm doing that on Linux and no longer need Windows on the desktop.
Win7 does me fine at the moment, so I will probably stay with it. Obviously different people will have different requirements and upgrading might suit them better.
Personally, the only things I still use Windows for are playing high-end games and for video editing. By 2020 it could be that I'm doing that on Linux and no longer need Windows on the desktop.
Win7 does me fine at the moment, so I will probably stay with it. Obviously different people will have different requirements and upgrading might suit them better.
It's quite a turning point making it free as there's no going back after that. Some might say they should have done this years ago though. Will definitely try windows 10 soon as the initial reviews sound promising but have to admit I'm just growing so tired of windows and it's endless updates, rubbish anti-virus software etc. I have 3 laptops at home; a Macbook, Chromebook and Windows 8 Asus and they get used in that order of preference.
JonRB said:
The way I see it, Windows 7 users have two choices - upgrade for free to Win10 within a year of Win10 being released or else stick with Win7 until it is EoL in January 2020 and then decide what to do (which might by then be to ditch Windows altogether).
Personally, the only things I still use Windows for are playing high-end games and for video editing. By 2020 it could be that I'm doing that on Linux and no longer need Windows on the desktop.
Win7 does me fine at the moment, so I will probably stay with it. Obviously different people will have different requirements and upgrading might suit them better.
If you are interested in high-end games then I would have thought upgrading would be a no-brainer, just to get DirectX 12.Personally, the only things I still use Windows for are playing high-end games and for video editing. By 2020 it could be that I'm doing that on Linux and no longer need Windows on the desktop.
Win7 does me fine at the moment, so I will probably stay with it. Obviously different people will have different requirements and upgrading might suit them better.
wolves_wanderer said:
If you are interested in high-end games then I would have thought upgrading would be a no-brainer, just to get DirectX 12.
Hmmm. I hadn't really considered that. 
I think I'm fast approaching the point at which I could run Ubuntu on a day-to-day basis and dual boot to Windows just to play games. There's really not much left that I regularly run that isn't cross-platform and also available under Linux.
Ideally I'd like a Windows Virtual Machine when running under Linux but with the ability to dual boot into a physical Windows install for maximum performance. Sadly that would require two licenses though.
clonmult said:
I've started to make use of OneNote (have it on the phone and Windows tablet), shame that we don't have a corporate copy available (it isn't part of our normal desktop suite). Pretty useful application, it surprises me a lot ... I've also been liking Windows 8.1 on my Acer tablet - although it does feel relatively clunky on my sons laptop without a touchscreen.
The "pricing" will give people no reason to not upgrade; the W8.1 tablet tends to feel snappier than my W7 laptop, despite the slight performance difference (Quad core atom v i7). I'll definitely upgrade both the tablet and the laptop.
My big caveat will be mobile. I have a Lumia 1020, and whilst I should wait to see others experiences with it before upgrading .... nut I am on the developer preview OS at the moment, so may upgrade that first.
OneNote is free isn't it?The "pricing" will give people no reason to not upgrade; the W8.1 tablet tends to feel snappier than my W7 laptop, despite the slight performance difference (Quad core atom v i7). I'll definitely upgrade both the tablet and the laptop.
My big caveat will be mobile. I have a Lumia 1020, and whilst I should wait to see others experiences with it before upgrading .... nut I am on the developer preview OS at the moment, so may upgrade that first.
http://www.onenote.com/
Though is this more of a corporate restriction on installing stuff?
Fetchez la vache said:
RemaL said:
is 10 out now to download or just the beta?
if it is out where can I download it from.
Still quite early on in the process, tbh. Technical preview ends April 15th. Download it from windows insider, hereif it is out where can I download it from.
pcAdvisor said:
Microsoft has stated that Windows 10 will launch "later in the year" in 2015, so we won't get the April release we were hoping for. But it has also said that it will share more about "universal apps" at its annual Build conference in April. The Technical Preview licence runs until April 15 2015, so expect a more complete beta then.
Probably not what you're hoping, but it's all there is for now. Nothing to stop you running it in a vm I wouldn't update your pc with it yet Edited by Fetchez la vache on Thursday 22 January 11:56
Bikerjon said:
It's quite a turning point making it free as there's no going back after that. Some might say they should have done this years ago though. Will definitely try windows 10 soon as the initial reviews sound promising but have to admit I'm just growing so tired of windows and it's endless updates, rubbish anti-virus software etc. I have 3 laptops at home; a Macbook, Chromebook and Windows 8 Asus and they get used in that order of preference.
Well I'm not sure it's "free" free. I guess full details will emerge later, but if you watch the video with the Microsoft dude presenting, he says it's upgrades from Win 8.1, Win 8.1 Mobile, and then he says upgrades from Win7 that are free, and only for a year. Think XP users may still have to pay for it, and people buying a new PC that comes with it, they don't actually pay for it directly, but a small chunk of their PC purchase price still goes to MS for it.No, they've clarified this, can people really not grasp the English language?
For the first year it is free to upgrade to Win 10. After that first year, if you didn't take up the free offer, you'll have to pay for it like you would any previous version of Windows.
It is not a year long demo.
For the first year it is free to upgrade to Win 10. After that first year, if you didn't take up the free offer, you'll have to pay for it like you would any previous version of Windows.
It is not a year long demo.
Oakey said:
No, they've clarified this, can people really not grasp the English language?
For the first year it is free to upgrade to Win 10. After that first year, if you didn't take up the free offer, you'll have to pay for it like you would any previous version of Windows.
That's how I read it in the first place. I thought that was bloody obvious? For the first year it is free to upgrade to Win 10. After that first year, if you didn't take up the free offer, you'll have to pay for it like you would any previous version of Windows.
JonRB said:
That's how I read it in the first place. I thought that was bloody obvious?
It's clear to anyone with an ounce of sense. Firstly, because MS aren't so stupid as to secretly foist a 12month demo on everyone (not after the Xbox One reveal disaster) and secondly because why would they limit it to Win 7 / 8 users? Why not a 12month demo for everyone?doogz said:
IIRC, anyone with W8 gets a free upgrade to 10 when it comes out.
It's equally likely I made that up though. I vaguely remember reading it somewhere, but really not sure.
Posibly on Teletext news. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30924022It's equally likely I made that up though. I vaguely remember reading it somewhere, but really not sure.
"
In addition, the firm announced that the OS upgrade would be offered free of charge for devices running Windows 8, Windows 7 and Windows Phone.
The offer, which is limited to the Windows 10's first year of release, may aid its adoption.
It marks a change in strategy from Microsoft's previous policy of charging for major updates, and could help avoid a repeat of the relatively slow uptake of Windows 8" .
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Posibly on Teletext news. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30924022
"
In addition, the firm announced that the OS upgrade would be offered free of charge for devices running Windows 8, Windows 7 and Windows Phone.
The offer, which is limited to the Windows 10's first year of release, may aid its adoption.
It marks a change in strategy from Microsoft's previous policy of charging for major updates, and could help avoid a repeat of the relatively slow uptake of Windows 8" .
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Not to mention the speed at which they released it now.
XP: 2001/08
Vista: 2007/01
7: 2009/10
8: 2012/10
Damn, didn't even realise that 8 is over two years old now, and 7 is over 5.
I'm one of these few that learned to appreciate Windows 8, despite it's (obvious) flaws. It's not perfect, but I've got high hopes for Windows 10 because of it. I've been on 8 for the past few years and when 10 is there, I'm probably going to take the dive as soon as I can.
Posibly on Teletext news. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30924022
"
In addition, the firm announced that the OS upgrade would be offered free of charge for devices running Windows 8, Windows 7 and Windows Phone.
The offer, which is limited to the Windows 10's first year of release, may aid its adoption.
It marks a change in strategy from Microsoft's previous policy of charging for major updates, and could help avoid a repeat of the relatively slow uptake of Windows 8" .
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Not to mention the speed at which they released it now.
XP: 2001/08
Vista: 2007/01
7: 2009/10
8: 2012/10
Damn, didn't even realise that 8 is over two years old now, and 7 is over 5.
I'm one of these few that learned to appreciate Windows 8, despite it's (obvious) flaws. It's not perfect, but I've got high hopes for Windows 10 because of it. I've been on 8 for the past few years and when 10 is there, I'm probably going to take the dive as soon as I can.
Polariz said:
OneNote is free isn't it?
http://www.onenote.com/
Though is this more of a corporate restriction on installing stuff?
Heavily locked down desktops, nobody has local admin rights so what you can install is restricted.http://www.onenote.com/
Though is this more of a corporate restriction on installing stuff?
I'm probably going to install the preview of Windows 10 on my laptop; didn't initially as I had expected it to cost when it came to the final version. It'll be nice to have a play ...
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