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J4CKO said:
I get the impression that they are running out of ideas, or at least drip feeding them.
It's the same across the board for all manufacturers, isn't it?Upgrading every year since the last couple of years seem a bit daft, but when you look at them with a generation or two a part, it makes sense. The camera of the S4 is not bad, but compare it to the one in the Galaxy S6 and it's another story altogether, same for the iPhone 5 -> 6.
From what I read, it could be that they are now using the same Sony sensor the Galaxy S6 uses, in which case, photo quality could be a big step forward from the iPhone 6 (which is far from bad in it's own right)!
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 10th September 12:40
ZesPak said:
It's the same across the board for all manufacturers, isn't it?
Upgrading every year since the last couple of years seem a bit daft, but when you look at them with a generation or two a part, it makes sense. The camera of the S4 is not bad, but compare it to the one in the Galaxy S6 and it's another story altogether, same for the iPhone 5 -> 6.
From what I read, it could be that they are now using the same Sony sensor the Galaxy S6 uses, in which case, photo quality could be a big step forward from the iPhone 6 (which is far from bad in it's own right)!
Yup, all that they're all doing is minor point changes in spec. Nothing radical at any point in the last few years.Upgrading every year since the last couple of years seem a bit daft, but when you look at them with a generation or two a part, it makes sense. The camera of the S4 is not bad, but compare it to the one in the Galaxy S6 and it's another story altogether, same for the iPhone 5 -> 6.
From what I read, it could be that they are now using the same Sony sensor the Galaxy S6 uses, in which case, photo quality could be a big step forward from the iPhone 6 (which is far from bad in it's own right)!
Interesting that the live photos and 3D touch, both of which were implemented by Nokia (although 3D touch was dropped) and a while after Apple brought in some ex Nokia engineers, the same appear on the iDevices. Difference being that 3D Touch as demonstrated on the unreleased Nokias was a lot more intriguing.
The Galaxy S6 uses a 16mp sensor. The new iPhone is using a 12mp sensor. Could be the same, but that would mean that Apple are cropping the sensor, or maybe using the additional area for digital image stabilisation.
clonmult said:
The Galaxy S6 uses a 16mp sensor. The new iPhone is using a 12mp sensor. Could be the same, but that would mean that Apple are cropping the sensor, or maybe using the additional area for digital image stabilisation.
Good point, from the teardowns I've seen I know that (especially in the regular 6), the iPhone 6 doesn't have room for the Sony sensor. Maybe they moved about some stuff and cropped the sensor as you said.ZesPak said:
clonmult said:
The Galaxy S6 uses a 16mp sensor. The new iPhone is using a 12mp sensor. Could be the same, but that would mean that Apple are cropping the sensor, or maybe using the additional area for digital image stabilisation.
Good point, from the teardowns I've seen I know that (especially in the regular 6), the iPhone 6 doesn't have room for the Sony sensor. Maybe they moved about some stuff and cropped the sensor as you said.ZesPak said:
J4CKO said:
I get the impression that they are running out of ideas, or at least drip feeding them.
It's the same across the board for all manufacturers, isn't it?Upgrading every year since the last couple of years seem a bit daft, but when you look at them with a generation or two a part, it makes sense. The camera of the S4 is not bad, but compare it to the one in the Galaxy S6 and it's another story altogether, same for the iPhone 5 -> 6.
From what I read, it could be that they are now using the same Sony sensor the Galaxy S6 uses, in which case, photo quality could be a big step forward from the iPhone 6 (which is far from bad in it's own right)!
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 10th September 12:40
Welshbeef said:
As I keep saying its effectively CHEAPER on contract than to buy.
Head banging against the wall.
Indeed I looked at this last time when I bought the 128 gb 6+ to buy the same phone outright and get the same data package was going to work out more cost and more hastle than getting the phone on contract.Head banging against the wall.
i did the same on a load of ipads for work, the 2 year deal for the pads plus data was less than the cost of the pad, go figure...
I dont get the if you dont have 500 quid dont get the phone as the phone is only part of the cost and its not as if your going to keep it forever, i just see the phone as a total monthly expense ( its business and private) my 6+ is a year old now, and it should last me another of couple of years and then i'll probably change it for a 7s as the battery will be knackered by then, and I'll go through the same process it its cheaper and more convenient to buy it and have a separate air time package i'll do it if not i'll stick it all on the contract.
mind you in 2 years time an iphone will either be £99.99 or £999.99 depending which way they go on pricing lol
Welshbeef said:
As I keep saying its effectively CHEAPER on contract than to buy.
Head banging against the wall.
It don't think contract is cheaper though, it is? Because you can get good cashback deals on SIM only.Head banging against the wall.
This is what I've now decided to do:
iPhone 6S 128GB outright: £699
EE SIM only (one year contract) - Unlimited Calls & Texts + 4GB Data: £20.99 per month - £144 Cashback = £8.99 / month.
Lets assume you can get an identical SIM only deal in year two. (Which isn't an unreasonable assumption)
Total cost = £699 + (£8.99 x 24) = £914.76
Can anyone find a contract deal that's within £250 of that deal over 2 years?
Mike29 said:
Agree. Why purchase something worth 500 quid on finance when you don't even have it spare. Nuts.
Why purchase a £15k car on finance when you don't even have it spare?Because people want 'things'. And there is an option to lend the full amount and pay it back in manageable lumps, instead of saving forever for it. Not everyone is as bothered as paying for everything in cash.
Zoon said:
ZesPak said:
On 4G, with a lot of music streaming, I easily chew through several GB's/month.
Do you not have broadband?Not sure how many hours a day equate to a GB of music, but I'm sure it's a fair bit.
Paul_M3 said:
Welshbeef said:
As I keep saying its effectively CHEAPER on contract than to buy.
Head banging against the wall.
It don't think contract is cheaper though, it is? Because you can get good cashback deals on SIM only.Head banging against the wall.
This is what I've now decided to do:
iPhone 6S 128GB outright: £699
EE SIM only (one year contract) - Unlimited Calls & Texts + 4GB Data: £20.99 per month - £144 Cashback = £8.99 / month.
Lets assume you can get an identical SIM only deal in year two. (Which isn't an unreasonable assumption)
Total cost = £699 + (£8.99 x 24) = £914.76
Can anyone find a contract deal that's within £250 of that deal over 2 years?
Also as I use my phone for work as well as personal, and expense back an agreed amount which would mean that 20Gb PCM and unlimited text and calls. Anyway essentially I can run two phones rolling bi annual replacement for the effective rate of £15pcm
. Zoon said:
ZesPak said:
On 4G, with a lot of music streaming, I easily chew through several GB's/month.
Do you not have broadband?Not sure how many hours a day equate to a GB of music, but I'm sure it's a fair bit.
Digitalize said:
No idea why you're all looking at EE, it's so overpriced.
Three. So much cheaper, and better.
Been there never again. Three. So much cheaper, and better.
EE British call centres who answer very quickly and know exactly how to speak English.
3G diabolical customer service & they constantly try to upsell. Try getting through and when you do they are inept one even once asked me about EastEnders and dirty den..... (While some screen was loading up)
Personally I want to give jobs to British people in our country not some call centre other siege of the world where you literally struggle to understand them and more often than not they don't have a clue what you are asking.
(Note I've done EE/3G/O2/Vodaphone/TMobile - not done orange. Without question in near on 20years EE is by far the best. )
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