Windows 10!

[trashbat]

I installed this yesterday on the lounge computer, which is really just there to provide content to the TV.

Upgrade from W7 was seamless.

There's a few big bugs at the mo. For instance, having auto-hide turned on for the taskbar means that when I press Start and begin typing (i.e. to search for something), the search box isn't displayed.

Overall I think it's quite nice, but I'm not an enormous fan of the W8-style UI scheme, which is a bit in your face. I kind of miss Aero's transparency, and notice there's a campaign to bring it back.

[Moonhawk]

RobDickinson said:

Under the hood windows 8 is really nice.

No one at Microsoft thought turning a powerful workstation with multiple screens into just a one screen calculator was a bad idea.. ?

Metro is OK but needs restricting to just touch / tablet devices

Yeh I don't mind windows 8 actually - but agree that metro doesn't work on desktops. I also lamented the passing of the start menu (glad to hear it's back in windows 10).

One of the first things I did after getting my windows 8 laptop was to install an aftermarket Windows 7 style start menu.

[clonmult]

Sway said:

Ah, didn't realise it was so early.

Reading up on it has made it appealing - I'm coming from W7, and haven't had a touch device before so hoped I could avoid two learning curves!

I'm generally liking it - the move from W7 is pretty painless. Everything seems to work fine.

Although be ready for random restarts for enforced installation of updates.

[MarkRSi]

Is the Windows 10 tech preview available from Windows 7 Update? Or am I missing something...?

ETA I was go here http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/preview... download, run, reboot and its there

Edited by MarkRSi on Thursday 5th February 23:29

[Olivero]

Any rough time line on when the finished version will be ready?

[zippy3x]

Olivero said:

Any rough time line on when the finished version will be ready?

Microsoft say later in the year. They have released most of their operating systems in October.

So most people expect an October date.

[Olivero]

zippy3x said:

Olivero said:

Any rough time line on when the finished version will be ready?

Microsoft say later in the year. They have released most of their operating systems in October.

So most people expect an October date.

Thanks, good to know.

[grumbledoak]

Oakey said:

No, what I'm saying is when it finally gets released, I don't want to upgrade my years old Win 7 install with all the crap it has accumulated over the last four or five years. I would want to do a fresh install of Win 10 but is this going to be possible?

You can certainly do this with the Tech Preview. I downloaded an ISO, 'burned' a bootable USB memory stick, switched SSDs, formatted, and reinstalled. A cleaner install than Lenovo sent originally.

Right, Visual Studio x3...

Edited by grumbledoak on Friday 6th February 02:52

[Chris Type R]

I've been holding off on a new laptop so that I can get a fresh install Win 10 - not sure that I can hold off until October though (also have to install Visual Studio, but 2008, 2012, and 2013).

[MarkRSi]

Did the upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 overnight, it's a small desktop connected to the TV in my living room, at least a Metro style interface would be more appropriate for that than the Windows 7 interface. Only niggle is it's seems to have broken Virtualbox (got a Linux VM for SSH/web access), tried running the Virtualbox installer to repair the installation but no dice. No big deal though.

However I've got an SSD on order for my Windows 8 laptop (which I use the most) which I plan to put Windows 10 onto as a fresh installation. Can't be any worse than using Ubuntu/Fedora, shirely...?

[Oakey]

grumbledoak said:

You can certainly do this with the Tech Preview. I downloaded an ISO, 'burned' a bootable USB memory stick, switched SSDs, formatted, and reinstalled. A cleaner install than Lenovo sent originally.

Right, Visual Studio x3...

Edited by grumbledoak on Friday 6th February 02:52

Right, but that's not associated with an existing Win 7 / 8 license, or is it? Is that not just like any other preview where you can install from ISO which eventually expires.

What I want to know is how you take your existing Win 7 / 8 license, take advantage of the free upgrade but still be able to do a fresh install from ISO, unless they allow you to enter your Win 7/8 key?

[trashbat]

That opportunity, if it's even required, will probably come later. There's no requirement at all in the Tech Preview.

[grumbledoak]

I was given I product key as part of the download process. I wrote it down just in case, but was never prompted for it.

They are going to give 10 away for home use anyway. I shall worry about that issue if it ever arises.

[MarkRSi]

Oh cock.

After installing a new SSD in my laptop I installed Windows 10. All great for a couple weeks, however after a reboot after installing Virtualbox, Windows 10 doesn't want to boot, just get a black screen after the BIOS screen. Now using my backup Vista laptop.

Oh cock.


ETA okay the Windows logo does appear, then a black screen appears with a mouse, then nothing

Tried entering the Recovery screen (F10) but all options bar the Reset (requiring the Windows CD) require an admin account, which isn't available?

Edited by MarkRSi on Saturday 21st February 12:36

[trashbat]

Virtualbox installs network adapters. Do you have any option of going into safe mode or anything?

I can't see an obvious way as to how it would fit your scenario, but the last time I saw what you describe, it was because I'd changed the hard disk settings in the BIOS from AHCI instead of IDE, and Windows didn't have the drivers. Setting it to IDE restored it to working (and I later fixed the problem) so you can try that.

[MarkRSi]

trashbat said:

Virtualbox installs network adapters. Do you have any option of going into safe mode or anything?

I can, but most of the recovery options (like using system restore which would most likely sort it) require an admin account which it can't seem to pick up... I've been using my Live/Hotmail details to login though.

It's not the end of the world - not dependant on the laptop for anything but more a PITA, plus this Vista laptop without an SSD is facking slow



ETA - safe mode works though, was able to login that way and do a system restore before install Virtualbox, which now allows to boot. Now the Start Menu doesn't open...

ETA (again...) - creating a new local admin account, logging on that, Start works fine, logging back onto Live account, start menu now works. Wheyhey.

Edited by MarkRSi on Saturday 21st February 15:55

[trashbat]

Good stuff!

On a different note, is anyone using Netflix on W10?

It's very odd. First few days of my using W10, it worked in the browser, and then it said 'your OS is not supported'. So, I got the app from the Windows Store or whatever it's called. Great - works even better.

Now it says 'this app can't open', and the browser works again. WTF?

[MarkRSi]

Is just me or does the volume restricted to 42 (out of 100) when I plug headphones in?

I've got Realtek HD Audio Manager but cannot see anything in that that would restrict the volume.

[JonRB]

MarkRSi said:

Is just me or does the volume restricted to 42 (out of 100) when I plug headphones in?

42? Well, you clearly already have the answer. You just need to find the right question now.

[R8VXF]

Anyone else getting constant low memory warnings recently? Might have to roll back to 8.1, 10 is pissing me off. Touch usability with the new start menu is fking awful and I really miss swipe navigation from the IE app.