Which antivirus for corporate use?

Which antivirus for corporate use?

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loaf

850 posts

263 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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pbrettle said: Try some out on trial evaluation versions - personal preference really. I use an anti-virus product from F-Secure which is excellent, but hardly anyone knows them (they are Finnish of all places!!).

Cheers,

Paul


I used F-Secure when it was still F-Prot...not a bad product but IMHO the support and updates were a bit rubbish...this was 5 years ago so things may have changed...?

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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McAfee AVD - TVD is available for the smaller corps...

andyf007

863 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Corporate - Norton, McAfee TVD, Sophos
SME - Norton, Sophos, McAfee TVD (try not to use the Netshield option, high server overhead in this environment), Norman (I did a lot of early installs of this product and it was initially poor, but has been a good product for the last 3-4yrs)
Small - Norton, McAfee, Norman all work well in small environments.

I currently use McAfee TVD and have had no problems with it.

Andy

alunr

1,676 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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andyf007 said: Corporate - Norton, McAfee TVD, Sophos
SME - Norton, Sophos, McAfee TVD (try not to use the Netshield option, high server overhead in this environment), Norman (I did a lot of early installs of this product and it was initially poor, but has been a good product for the last 3-4yrs)
Small - Norton, McAfee, Norman all work well in small environments.

I currently use McAfee TVD and have had no problems with it.

Andy

I've seen Norman running across a 12,000 machine network quite happily using cascading distribution points. I did an evaluation of lots of products and Norman came out best in every respect to me.

I'd be interested to hear why people did'nt like it (privately via email please) though.

Edited to say - I'm not saying you didnt like it andy!



>> Edited by alunr on Wednesday 11th June 16:03

pbrettle

3,280 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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loaf said:
I used F-Secure when it was still F-Prot...not a bad product but IMHO the support and updates were a bit rubbish...this was 5 years ago so things may have changed...?



Yes, that was always the problem - however its much better and technically speaking an excellent product. But, as with most things - excellent execution, but poor support. If the support is good then people buy it... shame as it is really good...

pbrettle

3,280 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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alunr said:
I've seen Norman running across a 12,000 machine network quite happily using cascading distribution points. I did an evaluation of lots of products and Norman came out best in every respect to me.

I'd be interested to hear why people did'nt like it (privately via email please) though.

Edited to say - I'm not saying you didnt like it andy!



I think that it is fair to do an evaluation but under the clear understanding that it was done at a particular time. The whole AV field is very competitive and it moves on pretty damn quick. So it might have been good at the time, but the products have changed.... it all depends on what you are looking at really....

Choice is good and having a number of suppliers keeps the competition up and products evolving. Just imagine what it would be like if there were only 2 or 3 vendors!!! Still, the key things to focus are management and control - differences between detection rates are so marginal that it makes pretty much no difference (99.4% vs 99.7% in a lab test for example). If it fits how you want to manage and control it then great - use it....

Cheers,

Paul

andyf007

863 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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alunr said:

andyf007 said: Corporate - Norton, McAfee TVD, Sophos
SME - Norton, Sophos, McAfee TVD (try not to use the Netshield option, high server overhead in this environment), Norman (I did a lot of early installs of this product and it was initially poor, but has been a good product for the last 3-4yrs)
Small - Norton, McAfee, Norman all work well in small environments.

I currently use McAfee TVD and have had no problems with it.

Andy

I've seen Norman running across a 12,000 machine network quite happily using cascading distribution points. I did an evaluation of lots of products and Norman came out best in every respect to me.

I'd be interested to hear why people did'nt like it (privately via email please) though.

Edited to say - I'm not saying you didnt like it andy!



>> Edited by alunr on Wednesday 11th June 16:03


Sorry Alun, but I did say it was a good product for the last 3-4 yrs. Hadn't seen it in a corporate environment to make any comment really, but I will say that if my software wasn't supplied free, then I would almost certainly be using Norman. It always came across as a very lightweight, resource friendly client compared to some. I would like to say that I was working with it back in 1998/9 when it relied on AT commands, Ndist and login scrpts to update etc. They released an updated version (5.x?) just before I left the firm I worked for at that time. This was a considerably better version and put it on a par with Norton and McAfee IMHO. Information I have recieved since then leads me to believe it still is.

Andy

alunr

1,676 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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I've actually found this is one of the hardest things about selling AV products and security. Detection rates are what bothers the end user whereas support and management are equally as important.

tuffer

8,850 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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www.sunspot.net/technology/ats-ap_technology12jun11,0,6826356.story?coll=sns-technology-headlines

This should liven things up....whith their security record is anyone going to take this seriously? Maybe if they had bought one of the leading players they would get some credibility (plus my shares would have gone through the roof)!!

alunr

1,676 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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tuffer said: www.sunspot.net/technology/ats-ap_technology12jun11,0,6826356.story?coll=sns-technology-headlines

This should liven things up....whith their security record is anyone going to take this seriously? Maybe if they had bought one of the leading players they would get some credibility (plus my shares would have gone through the roof)!!


Do you think they'll be able to bundle it with the OS aswell then . Probelm is credibility means nothing - people will buy anything in PC world as longs as its got Microsoft tattoed on it.

Maybe this will cause the complete seperation of the Home and Corporate markets?

andyf007

863 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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alunr said: Maybe this will cause the complete seperation of the Home and Corporate markets?


Absolutely. Most new home PCs come bundled with Norton 2002 in there somewhere. Yet very few people use it or update it. If Bill comes up with a product that does it all automatically as part of the OS, then people will buy it. Businesses however will not be so easily fooled.

Andy

zumbruk

7,848 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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alunr said: I've actually found this is one of the hardest things about selling AV products and security. Detection rates are what bothers the end user whereas support and management are equally as important.


I would say they are *more* important - detection rates are irrelevant when you can't roll out the product to client PCs.

loaf

850 posts

263 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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alunr said: I've actually found this is one of the hardest things about selling AV products and security. Detection rates are what bothers the end user whereas support and management are equally as important.


Which demonstrates that these end-users are not thinking straight. Anti-malware products are only as good as teh support and updates - it's no use being able to detect 100% of viruses known three months ago, 00's of viruses (viri?) have been written in that time and updates are key.