Huge mistake Nokia
Discussion
Pr1964 said:
thehawk said:
I'd respectfully suggest that construction workers are not big revenue streams for the major phone companies. In any case, most tradies I've known are just as shallow as the rest of the world and want flash smartphones.
If you want a old school phone then Nokia and others still make plenty, so not sure why you are complaining.
If Nokia currently made decent t9 do you really think I'd be moaning ?If you want a old school phone then Nokia and others still make plenty, so not sure why you are complaining.
You have it in a nutshell shallow and flash smartphones .. The tradesmen I know have almost all reverted to their old t9's once their contract allows or even just get out their old t9 for work and pop their sim into the "smart" phone for the weekend....
The uk construction industry employes 2.4 million people ..
Are you really saying that's not a market worth having?
Besides a decent t9 wouldn't just appeal to that market .....
They won't pay extra for a posher, more expensive handset unless it adds more features (smartphone/blackberry) or promises not to break (jcb phone, etc) or is a status symbol (iphone). They days of a t9 phone being a status symbol and commanding a premium are over, so what are you going to offer to convince them to part with the extra cash it would cost?
Pr1964 said:
CommanderJameson said:
Just buy a Sonim and stop f
king whining, ffs.
You just don't get it do you .. you're so completely Arrogant. I'm not telling you what you should have I'm talking about what I want and want isn't available...king whining, ffs.But you're apparently MUCH MOAR BUSINESSY than anyone else, apparently on the basis that you talk on the phone a bit.
Pr1964 said:
Nokia should be looking at niche parts of the market and they should be trying to aim for excellence in those niche areas.
Phones for
Builders on building sites
Business men on business trips
Engineers on site with no access to power points to charge their mobile
Old people who want simple handsets
Samsung seem to have much of that covered, indeed they have a ruggedised handset optimised for gloved use which has great battery life too...Phones for
Builders on building sites
Business men on business trips
Engineers on site with no access to power points to charge their mobile
Old people who want simple handsets
Pr1964 said:
You’re starting to make yourself look foolish.
Rolex make watches which run for years without the need to change a battery with enough accuracy for 99% of owners.
And my G-Shock (GW-3000BD-1AER, if model numbers are your thing) is more accurate than any Rolex, more robust than any Rolex, has more features than any Rolex, and never needs winding or a battery. It even goes backwards and forwards as required as DST comes and goes.Rolex make watches which run for years without the need to change a battery with enough accuracy for 99% of owners.
Enough accuracy for 100% of owners.
Pr1964 said:
A Rolex datejust / submariner are in a completely different league to a Gshock.
You really really don't get That either.
Oh, give over.You really really don't get That either.
OK, it's only a povvo Omega and a cheapy Tissot - I can't afford a Rolex like yours, given that even a no-date Sub starts at about £4K - but still.
The problem with assuming things is that you end up looking like a div. Like your amazing find of a review on Amazon, which doesn't actually contradict anything I said.
Your analogy - old Nokia phone = Rolex, smartphones = G-Shock - is a load of rubbish.
Pr1964 said:
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Dont think the analogy of comparing watches to phone worked very well.
I have G-shock, as like many on here I cannot afford nor wish to spend £4k on jewellry.
Saying that, a friend of mine who IS into watches, just this weekend while having dinner, explained to another person in the group that many, many high end watch owners ALSO own G-shocks as they are £ for £ the best tough watch there is.
Returning to the phone debate, this would then show that the guys on your site(s) that have older phones are either (a) not bothered about their functionality and simply want something cheap if they break it or (b) have a smartphone or the like somewhere else away form the rough and tumble of a building site.
My reasoning behind not having a large smartphone is I will break it. My SE M-P is powerful enough, full qwerty and battery will (once I turned off the sill apps that were gimmicks to start with) lasts well into the next day on one charge. (full in about 90 mins)
Nokia wont return to the "good ole days" of making the phone you'd like to own, they will go on to make the phone that will attract the lions share of the market. Which at present is smartphones. Ask any kid, their reply will be a smartphone. Games, text, speech recognition the works. Its not just a phone anymore its a mobile computer and you need to either embrace the tech or start up www.webuyanynokia.com to ensure you have a supply for the next 30 years...
I have G-shock, as like many on here I cannot afford nor wish to spend £4k on jewellry.
Saying that, a friend of mine who IS into watches, just this weekend while having dinner, explained to another person in the group that many, many high end watch owners ALSO own G-shocks as they are £ for £ the best tough watch there is.
Returning to the phone debate, this would then show that the guys on your site(s) that have older phones are either (a) not bothered about their functionality and simply want something cheap if they break it or (b) have a smartphone or the like somewhere else away form the rough and tumble of a building site.
My reasoning behind not having a large smartphone is I will break it. My SE M-P is powerful enough, full qwerty and battery will (once I turned off the sill apps that were gimmicks to start with) lasts well into the next day on one charge. (full in about 90 mins)
Nokia wont return to the "good ole days" of making the phone you'd like to own, they will go on to make the phone that will attract the lions share of the market. Which at present is smartphones. Ask any kid, their reply will be a smartphone. Games, text, speech recognition the works. Its not just a phone anymore its a mobile computer and you need to either embrace the tech or start up www.webuyanynokia.com to ensure you have a supply for the next 30 years...
Edited by With these feet on Sunday 13th May 14:48
Pr1964 said:
No wonder you can't see that a company which was capabke of producing the E75 a premium product made of high quality materials that oozed class now produces plastic crap with and without buttons....
You are holding up the E75 as being a good phone?We issued our sales staff (at my old company) with these and they were awful.
The only thing worse was the E52 (same phone, no slide out keyboard).
We had so may issue with these phones, from shonky build quality (buttons falling off, screens cracking, charging ports not working) to buggy software (no email sync, no data, no audio or voice, re-boot loops).
We swapped them out with HD7's and the sales guys were so much happier, and productive.
Pr1964 said:
Ideally Nokia will come out with a robust slick looking t9 or qwerty business phone with improved camera "macro" + "flash" a 2.6 " screen with gorilla glass and a double size battery ie .... 2600 mAh . A gps would also be good.
running reliable fast s40 or s60..
S60 hasn't existed for years. Its just called Symbian these days.running reliable fast s40 or s60..
If you want a robust device, strong metal shell, gorilla glass screen ..... my suggestion would be an N8. Battery life, depending on usage is likely a couple of days, but I've heard of people using them to hammer in nails, and to prove the strength of the glass knives have been used and never a scratch on the display.
But at the end of the day, T9, autofocus camera + flash, GPS and your requirement for decent battery life - they just don't go together. Or at least the market is sufficiently small that its not a viable proposition.
Pr1964 said:
I'd rather wear a Rolex than a Gshock because I'd never use all the bks on a Gshock and don't want to look cheap .. iPhone is the exception.
A £79 Nokia looks cheap, a £ 400 HTC does not.ks on a Gshock and don't want to look cheap .. iPhone is the exception.Pr1964 said:
Nokia marketing could make the phone equivalent of a Rolex .....
They did, it's a Vertu.Pr1964 said:
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Keep your smart phone plugged into that socket because your brain really isn't able to compute much more than ..
your brain repeating ...
"Have iPhone, iPhone is the best plug into charger iPhone is best have iPhone iPhone is best plug into charger iPhone is best I am a iPhone I am Brain washed with iPhone .
Plug in charger
iPhone
Brain
iPhone "
Etc etc etc etc etc etc
...
What are you doing on the internet, library to deserted for you?Keep your smart phone plugged into that socket because your brain really isn't able to compute much more than ..
your brain repeating ...
"Have iPhone, iPhone is the best plug into charger iPhone is best have iPhone iPhone is best plug into charger iPhone is best I am a iPhone I am Brain washed with iPhone .
Plug in charger
iPhone
Brain
iPhone "
Etc etc etc etc etc etc
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