Why do Apple devices not run Flash?
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TonyToniTone said:
Blue Meanie said:
Sorry, but you want to blame apple because the flash pluton in abysmal? How on earth is apple supposed to control what a third party does?
Maybe they could close the tab so the browser will not crash when a process hangs?TonyToniTone said:
Maybe they could close the tab so the browser will not crash when any process hangs - therefore negating this entire thread?
No it doesn't. Even if you deal with the crashing in a graceful manner you are still left with the fact that it is a processor hog and therefore kills battery life.Accept it. Flash is s
t and Apple have, quite rightly, decided that they will not let it make their platform look bad.I won't accept it just because a jobsworth says it is so – you do realise that other methods of decoding video use battery. If apple were so bothered how come they only api up a couple of months ago?
This is about control\money and nothing else - which is fair enough it their platform but for people to bleat blindly that it is about performance is ridiculous.
This is about control\money and nothing else - which is fair enough it their platform but for people to bleat blindly that it is about performance is ridiculous.
TonyToniTone said:
Maybe they could close the tab so the browser will not crash when any process hangs - therefore negating this entire thread?
You seem content to have a plugin that crashes for some reason. I really don't get that. If it crashed only tabs, would you then think adobe were doing a good job?Blue Meanie said:
TonyToniTone said:
Maybe they could close the tab so the browser will not crash when any process hangs - therefore negating this entire thread?
You seem content to have a plugin that crashes for some reason. I really don't get that. If it crashed only tabs, would you then think adobe were doing a good job?But then I dont experience flash crashes myself, using IE and windows, so why should I care.
Yes flash uses power but its decoding heavy video that realy needs the power, flash may not be the most efficient way but dont you think it should be down to the USER to decide if they want to waste battery or not?
I don't know? Why do you care? Personally I'm more than happy to have my flash blockers running on safari, and on my iPad/iPod, I don't really miss flash at all. HTML5 is showing how content can be implemented well, without the arseache of using adobe. The non mobile device apple gear runs flash fine, but then again they tend to be plugged in, etc. I agree with jobs in that if flash is going to be a fking disaster on the mobile devices, get rid of it. Maybe then adobe will do something about it. As someone said, it's about quality control. If adobe aren't arced about getting it to work well on safari, then that attitude can go both ways.
king disaster on the mobile devices, get rid of it. Maybe then adobe will do something about it. As someone said, it's about quality control. If adobe aren't arced about getting it to work well on safari, then that attitude can go both ways.RobDickinson said:
Its nice to know theres some people abotu who dont mind someone else deciding what they can and cant run on their computing devices.
I prefer being able to choose myself.
Nobody is dictating what you can or cannot run on your Apple Mobile device. You buy it eyes wide open in full knowledge that it doesn't do flash. If that is a problem then don't buy the device in the first place.I prefer being able to choose myself.
RobDickinson said:
Its nice to know theres some people abotu who dont mind someone else deciding what they can and cant run on their computing devices.
I prefer being able to choose myself.
Jeez... The apple/adobe thing is common knowledge. It's not a conspiracy, and you are not having you freedoms curtailed in any way. You want an android device, or a win-mo device, go and get one. As I said earlier, I don't run flash on my home matchbooks either, and don't have issues. I prefer being able to choose myself.
It's nice to know that some people like to make mountains out of molehills, and it's also nice that some people out there like a little OS drama in their lives.
Its not just flash, tho thats what this discussion is. I've dealt with apple and ITMS and its not somewhere I want to go again. One gatekeeper who makes the rules up as they go and doesnt tell you what they are.
Havnt they taken apps off peoples phones too?
Too much control for me on my device.
Havnt they taken apps off peoples phones too?
Too much control for me on my device.
Blue Meanie said:
TonyToniTone said:
Maybe they could close the tab so the browser will not crash when any process hangs - therefore negating this entire thread?
You seem content to have a plugin that crashes for some reason. I really don't get that. If it crashed only tabs, would you then think adobe were doing a good job?Pigeon said:
The API on Linux is totally open yet flash is st there too. The problem is that Adobe can't be arsed with any platform other than Windoze.
I can understand them not being bothered with the freetards but adobe will use the api from apple..t there too. The problem is that Adobe can't be arsed with any platform other than Windoze.ETA iplayer runs fine on ubuntu\fedora for me
Edited by TonyToniTone on Thursday 5th August 01:28
RobDickinson said:
Its not just flash, tho thats what this discussion is. I've dealt with apple and ITMS and its not somewhere I want to go again. One gatekeeper who makes the rules up as they go and doesnt tell you what they are.
Havnt they taken apps off peoples phones too?
Too much control for me on my device.
Or you can have the microsoft way where anyone can run anything which means a knowledgable user can do anything they want and will be smart enough to maintain their own computer and keep an eye on what is happening in the backgroundHavnt they taken apps off peoples phones too?
Too much control for me on my device.
I know naff all about computers and my experience of windoze was a unreliable piece of crap as i didn't have a clue how to maintain it so i buy 100% into the apple way of doing things where the software is locked down to stop me doing stupid things
!thinfourth2 said:
RobDickinson said:
Its not just flash, tho thats what this discussion is. I've dealt with apple and ITMS and its not somewhere I want to go again. One gatekeeper who makes the rules up as they go and doesnt tell you what they are.
Havnt they taken apps off peoples phones too?
Too much control for me on my device.
Or you can have the microsoft way where anyone can run anything which means a knowledgable user can do anything they want and will be smart enough to maintain their own computer and keep an eye on what is happening in the backgroundHavnt they taken apps off peoples phones too?
Too much control for me on my device.
I know naff all about computers and my experience of windoze was a unreliable piece of crap as i didn't have a clue how to maintain it so i buy 100% into the apple way of doing things where the software is locked down to stop me doing stupid things
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