How do I make a website???

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DJFish

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5,982 posts

277 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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No doubt this will get sent to a more techy forum at some point by the mods, but in the meantime.

My friend are going to be setting up a canoe summer school next year, we've got the qualifications, we've even got the canoes, but we need to spread the word by way of the interweb.

I think we're talking about a cover page and a maximum of about ten pages of blurb and piccies, so when we give people business cards, they can get all the info they need from the website.

I've got something like 55MB with my NTL subscription, is that enough? How do you actally go about creating a decent website???????

Is there any welding involved, I mean I really don't have a clue!

Would appreciate any advice,
Cheers
Dave

wedg1e

26,912 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Hey, if I can do it, any berk can

FrontPage; think a cross between using Word and Publisher (or even PowerPoint) and you can't go far wrong.

And yeah, 55Mb will go a long way as long as you don't want ludicrously hi-res graphics or shopping software included...

vixpy1

42,686 posts

278 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Use Frontpage that comes with office, its really really easy!

I did myn on Frontpage:

www.surreyrollingroad.co.uk

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

254 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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55mb will be fine to store it all on, but what really makes or breaks it is the download quota, and probably the URL . A big download quota so that nobody gets that awful message saying that they can't see your site and the URL could be important depending on what your competitors have, really you want a proper domain name like www.whitewater.com, the last thing you want is to look like an amateur set-up especially if you are very professional about everything else ( as you seem to be ).

docevi1

10,430 posts

262 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I've very strong feelings about home-brewed webpages when trying to sell a bussiness, don't do it!

All to often something you think "looks cool" is actually completely against every rule in the book and should never be done. I'm not saying you can't make a decent site, but it sure as hell isn't going to look proffesional or indeed personal enough to ooze the confidence you need to portray.

Getting someone who knows what they are doing doesn't cost a lot, in fact there are plenty of people on here who could do it for you cheaply (I'm one of them, but am useless with graphics so tend to do more coding than making something pretty hence not offering here).

IMO don't do it yourself, and certainly don't host it on NTL regardless if you are going to be getting only one or two visitors a month, it simply isn't worth having people suffer the slow laggy delay and ultimately finding out you haven't got a decent host.

wedg1e

26,912 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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The good Doc makes a good point. Try a word in Dieselnut's lughole, he may be able to offer you webspace and/or design facilities.
Having said that, Doc, our company website was allegedly 'professionally' designed (not by DN), it would have been nice if they could have used someone who speaks the Queen's English to create it.. and then listened when we told them what we wanted changing...

IT types, I've shat 'em....

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

260 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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wedg1e said:


IT types, I've shat 'em....


As an IT Type that's a little harsh.....

But on website design the thing that gets me is every person I know claims they can do it, but trust me my GF has been creating web sites and writing proper back end code for years and its an art, not something you can just knock up in 5 minutes. Yes frontpage can create a site at little expense (and not a bad one) but look and feel at a corporate image costs money, just look at PH and thats what some people need because of the type of customers they attract and need.

wedg1e

26,912 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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maddog-uk said:

wedg1e said:


IT types, I've shat 'em....



As an IT Type that's a little harsh.....

But on website design the thing that gets me is every person I know claims they can do it, but trust me my GF has been creating web sites and writing proper back end code for years and its an art, not something you can just knock up in 5 minutes. Yes frontpage can create a site at little expense (and not a bad one) but look and feel at a corporate image costs money, just look at PH and thats what some people need because of the type of customers they attract and need.


My dig was at those folk who profess to be professional, but their product speaks otherwise
From my point of view, if I was mad keen on (eg) scuba-diving, I'd be happy to find a new company selling me the product I wanted, at a price worth paying, and forgive them the home-made look of their website. However if I found a company claiming to be established 15 years (as ours does) and then see that their website has glaring errors, I'd be questioning the calibre of the staff, if they couldn't spot those errors and have them corrected (again, our company - or rather, the one I work for).

Ian

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

260 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Ok point taken! Insomnia is setting in!

branflakes

2,039 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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If you fancy learning HTML from scratch (the basic stuff ISN'T that difficult), visit HTML Goodies - all you'll need is a simple text editor and a browser to view your efforts in.

DJFish

Original Poster:

5,982 posts

277 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Thanks chaps,
All comments gratefully received.

JoolzB

3,549 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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The beauty of the interweb is you can usually nick somebodys good idea, find a site you like the look of and you can "borrow" the formatting by clicking on View==>Source.

Open it open in DreamWeaver or Frontpage(not nice IMO) and off yer go.

To get a half professional site get a decent name, usually available at a small cost, it looks so much better than the usual personal ones you get with your ISP.

If you can set it up properly from the start maybe using CSS it'll save you alot of time in future maintenance.

docevi1

10,430 posts

262 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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I'm in complete agreement with you there Ian, hence why I don't make websites for people anymore. I can do the code in the background well enough and I make something work (like my site) but it certainly isn't "pretty".

Plotloss

67,280 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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docevi1 said:
I've very strong feelings about home-brewed webpages when trying to sell a bussiness, don't do it!

All to often something you think "looks cool" is actually completely against every rule in the book and should never be done. I'm not saying you can't make a decent site, but it sure as hell isn't going to look proffesional or indeed personal enough to ooze the confidence you need to portray.

Getting someone who knows what they are doing doesn't cost a lot, in fact there are plenty of people on here who could do it for you cheaply (I'm one of them, but am useless with graphics so tend to do more coding than making something pretty hence not offering here).

IMO don't do it yourself, and certainly don't host it on NTL regardless if you are going to be getting only one or two visitors a month, it simply isn't worth having people suffer the slow laggy delay and ultimately finding out you haven't got a decent host.


Dont do it if you dont have any clue about design.

Do do it if you do.

The actual coding a monkey could do, the design is the important bit.

If you are confident that you can pull off a decent site the is NO reason to outsource it at all...