Leave running or power off?
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BliarOut

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72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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Personally I come from the leave it running, always, school of thought. Everything at home is on standby at worse and I just don't switch anything off.

So why the post? Well, my PC died about an hour after I came back from my hols. I suspect the fluff that was normally circulating all got drawn into the CPU fan after it settled down. No proof, just a good guess when I took it apart.

Previously my central heating packed up when I went on my hols and powered it down. To my mind, technology is at it's best when it's being used and it just doesn't like heat cycling.

So who religiously powers off and who leaves switched on?

greenlandy

1,635 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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I have a spare M/B and cpu you can have Rob

I power down, to tight to leave things on all the time.

jimothy

5,151 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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I leave everything on standby. Mind you, I have a home network so if it was turned off it'd take 5 minutes for my server to start up, then another 30 seconds for my Mac and by that time I'd be bored and doing something else.

imperialism2024

1,596 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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on

TeamD

5,060 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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On...with UPS just in case.

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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greenlandy said:
I have a spare M/B and cpu you can have Rob

I power down, to tight to leave things on all the time.


Cheers Matt..... Just before I make a choice then, have a nose in PH Computers and stuff!!!

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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PCs quite like to be left running really (rather than heat cycling).

Having said that, I turn off my one at home but leave the one in the office on most of the time.

C C

8,052 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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Any idea what it died of?

Might just need a new PSU.

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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C C said:
Any idea what it died of?

Might just need a new PSU.


Fluff ingestion

CPU was running at about 95 degrees when I realised there was a problem Won't even boot to the BIOS when totally stripped down now.

I might get away with just a new PSU, or just a CPU but TBH, it's easier to just replace the MoBo etc. If things didn't die from the heat they could have been compromised and I can't be arsed to fault find

C C

8,052 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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For my sins I spend some of my free time repairing or upgrading PCs for friends and work mates etc.

It’s amazing how some of them run at all with the amount of dust inside.
Heavy smokers are the worst. The tar in the smoke makes a lovely sticky surface for the dust to adhere to and then it acts as a binding agent. Lovely! and the smell.

Good luck with the new kit.

rooster

2,241 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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we have a constant arguement about this in our house, I turn everything off, he leaves everything on. apparently it is more environmentally sound to turn off but I have yet to see convincing figures.

>> Edited by rooster on Tuesday 21st June 14:55

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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I turn my appliances off at night - computer, Hi-Fi, TV etc, but during the day they're on standby. I just reckon that an hour or so in between uses is OK, but if you're not going to use them for 8 or so hours, what's the point in wasting the electricity?

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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It's cheaper in the long run because things generally don't break if you leave them running

In some of the older kit we used to work with, the PSU's often break if allowed to cool. The PN Junctions in the diodes just broke down when they had a temperature cycle.

If we were working in the IT racks, we used to power the kit down, stick it anywhere in the shop and power it up again.... Always came back up when it was time to recommission. The kit that was left powered down for a few hours frequently never worked again.

ErnestM

11,621 posts

296 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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It's not just the heat cycling (although that is bad). The biggest electrical spike that you can give a PC is to go from 0 to 450+ watts in no time at all. Even modern power supplies tend to throw power instant on rather than spool up slowly...

...and then there is the hard drives. Hands up those that remember "parking" discs through the winchester hard disk utility before powering down? No? Just me? (showing my age again). However, hard drives take a hell of a beating powering up from a stand still. Better to leave those puppies spinning.

Just MHO

ErnestM

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Slightly o/t but related.......

Similarly, if undertaking a night time journey which runs over into daylight the cooling and vibration in car bulbs can cause them to blow. However, I think things have improved since I was taughtthis when I first started driving.

steve

meeja

8,290 posts

277 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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ErnestM said:
Hands up those that remember "parking" discs through the winchester hard disk utility before powering down?




COuldn't find a "Hand-Up" smily!

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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meeja said:

ErnestM said:
Hands up those that remember "parking" discs through the winchester hard disk utility before powering down?





COuldn't find a "Hand-Up" smily!


ditto
5meg winchester drive and 512k of ram. Couldn't afford the 640k version

-DeaDLocK-

3,368 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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When too hot any modern PC system should shut down automatically.

And a die temp of 95 degress on a modern CPU is a lot but not a massive problem - modern CPUs are rated to about 85-95 degrees.

Your system should've cut out if too hot.