Laptop battery help.
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TypeR

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1,198 posts

268 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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The battery on my laptop seems to be holding it's charge for much shorter periods of time than when it was new (approx 18months)
A fully charged battery now gives less than 15 minutes use.
Is there a way to recondition it to keep it's charge longer or can I change some of the setting to make the computer use less power?

All advice greatfully recv'd.

Cheers.

pmanson

13,388 posts

282 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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Time for a new battery i'm afraid! Is it plugged in to the mains most of the time?

SlvrCrb

1,180 posts

262 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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You can try this but usually you need a new battery if it's not holding charge and it's always been plugged into the mains

1) Completely discharge the battery by powering on but not loading the OS (important as OS has power saving features and will suspend the computer before the it's fully discharged)

2) Leave it to completly flatten.

3) Charge fully with laptop off.

4) Discharge again as per 1) & 2)

5) Charge fully with laptop off

Try again. If still no joy you can pick up laptop batteries pretty cheap off ebay or ebatts

TypeR

Original Poster:

1,198 posts

268 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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Thanks for the replies.

The laptop is nearly always run with the mains plugged in. i've tried completely flattening the battery too.
Time for a new one I guess!!

rfisher

5,064 posts

312 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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WOW - 1st post with the new "I agree to the sale of my children unto da law" fing.

Anyway - laptop batteries.

Is it best to leave them fully charged all the time or let them run flat and then plug into the mains to charge up whilst still using the laptop?

If you let them go flat then presumably you should leave then like that until you want to use the laptop again rather than charging up and then switching off the machine?

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

265 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

Whilst it's from Apple it probably applies to all modern laptop batteries (and iPods etc too)

Jon C

3,214 posts

276 months

Friday 19th August 2005
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I have never tried this myself, and accept no liability for the consequences of anyone else trying this, but I am informed that sealing laptop batteries in plastic bags and putting them in the freezer overnight works wonders for them when they are getting tired.

M3 Mitch

538 posts

258 months

Saturday 20th August 2005
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I'll second the freezer idea for a Ni-Cad. I have no idea why it works but got the tip from a computer help line and this is what I do, again, with a Ni-Cad and most laptop batteries are not Ni-Cad anymore:

Discharge (although not to completely dead, just run it down till the voltage falls off good)

Freeze

Take from freezer and charge while it's still cold.

I don't know what parts of the above ritual are really necessary, but it will revive a tired Ni-Cad for a bit.

Depending on your laptop, some will overcharge the battery if left plugged in to the mains continuously, better to charge it up then unplug it.

I always wear eye protection while putting the battery into the charger, just being paranoid I guess, but I do it.

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Saturday 20th August 2005
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I heard somewhere that you can actually blast old rechargable batteries. I imagine that it only applies to some types, so experiment with greta care.

I think what happens is that the elecrolyte decays, and the plates become shorted together. Overall the internal resistance of the battery changes, and not for the better.

The "blaster" involves shocking the battery with a HT type voltage, and it burns out the shorts between the plates.

Well I can't find out anything about that, but I have found an interesting application note that might give you and idea. I certainly did for me.

www.national.com/appinfo/power/files/f19.pdf


>> Edited by dilbert on Saturday 20th August 02:29

TypeR

Original Poster:

1,198 posts

268 months

Saturday 20th August 2005
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Thanks for the replies PH'ers. The average cost for a new battery is about £60.00 +VAT!!!!
It's a Lithium Ion battery, but I'm going to try the freezer trick, and if that doesn't work, I'll try the "hook the terminals to an arc welder" approach.
As a last resort, I could always hook up the battery from my motorbike, a bit of gaffer tape and the job's a good'un

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Saturday 20th August 2005
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I actually read the PDF document I posted yesterday, this morning. It seems that you can Zap Ni~Cad and probably NiMH batteries, but the Li-Ion ones look like they might be a bit deadly under duress.

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Saturday 20th August 2005
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To be fair £60 isn't bad for a battery, there are bargains to be had on ebay but just make sure you buy a new, sealed battery from a reputable seller with lots of feedback.