iPhone. How to get the best from it?
iPhone. How to get the best from it?
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f13ldy

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1,432 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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As I've read a few people have the iPhone on here so I've got a few questions as I'm new to this game.

How can I get the best from it? I've only got peasant spec 2g version bear in mind.

What apps do you recommend? Mine is 'jailbroken', so have the installer app to find them, but I'll be dammed if I know what is decent.

Also what sources do you use to get the best apps? How do I change my icons? How do I set a theme?

As you can see my list is going to be endless. Can you answer my questions or at least point me to 1 decent website as google throws up around 1trillion matches to iPhone with everyone claiming they know whats best...

Help.

I've searched on here, but it just threw up 9 page topics of 'haters' who it transpired had never used one.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Have a look in the computers forum.
Lots of good stuff in there and plenty of app's being suggested etc. smile

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Ask Shrubbs about using it abroad...he has thoughts..hehe

CivicMan

2,211 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Just seen a thick magazine in WH Smith on "getting the best from your IPhone". In with the mobiles and computers section.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

274 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Hand it back to the shop and ask for something that works and makes phonecalls.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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RedLeicester said:
Hand it back to the shop and ask for something that works and makes phonecalls.
Here we go! wink

f13ldy

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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RedLeicester said:
Hand it back to the shop and ask for something that works and makes phonecalls.
Well it does work and make calls.

It can also do a hell of a lot more, which is what I'm trying to ascertain exactly what that maybe.

Dracoro

9,026 posts

274 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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f13ldy said:
RedLeicester said:
Hand it back to the shop and ask for something that works and makes phonecalls.
Well it does work and make calls.

It can also do a hell of a lot more
Except retain a charge for any length of time winkbiggrin

Why are all these pda type phones crap for battery life anyway?.....

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Dracoro said:
Why are all these pda type phones crap for battery life anyway?.....
fast processors, and apps that take alot of processing power with fancy graphics to boot... tends to eat the batteries.

certainly with mine when running Tom Tom - the graphics plus the GPS data transfer tends to really chew through the battery.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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3G, Wi-fi, big full-colour screens etc. etc.
I find my iPhone not too bad for battery life in comparison to other PDA-type phones.
Get a couple of days of charge out of it, sometimes 3. Which isn't horrific!

son of a vette

405 posts

244 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Dracoro said:
f13ldy said:
RedLeicester said:
Hand it back to the shop and ask for something that works and makes phonecalls.
Well it does work and make calls.

It can also do a hell of a lot more
Except retain a charge for any length of time winkbiggrin

Why are all these pda type phones crap for battery life anyway?.....
Tend to find its a bit of a catch 22 with my iphone, if I don't play with it all the time I get a good few days out of it, problem is I play games, listen to music, surf the web a bit each day, normally needs charged every second day. Still it's so pretty.........

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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VNC, Lux Touch (risk game), Bloomberg, Currency, MyRailLite, Noise.io Pro (costs, but it's an amazing music app), Stanza (book reader), Translator, Darts.

Should get you started. The best thing is just to try them, you can always remove if they turn out crap.

Dracoro

9,026 posts

274 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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son of a vette said:
Dracoro said:
f13ldy said:
RedLeicester said:
Hand it back to the shop and ask for something that works and makes phonecalls.
Well it does work and make calls.

It can also do a hell of a lot more
Except retain a charge for any length of time winkbiggrin

Why are all these pda type phones crap for battery life anyway?.....
Tend to find its a bit of a catch 22 with my iphone, if I don't play with it all the time I get a good few days out of it.....
The fuel in my car lasts for months on end if I rarely drive it winkbiggrin

A pity as I like the iPhone but high up on my priorities for a phone is to only have to charge it once a week, twice at a push.

willd58

1,559 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Dracoro said:
A pity as I like the iPhone but high up on my priorities for a phone is to only have to charge it once a week, twice at a push.
Whats so difficult about putting a phone on charge over night?

Dracoro

9,026 posts

274 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Because it's like a car with a 100mile range, I can fill my car up every morning with petrol of course, it's not too hard but it would be bl**dy annoying.

When you go away for a weekend or overnight, you have to have to take a charger.
Wherever you go, you need somewhere to plug charger into.
Whenever you go, you have to check how much power you have in case it'll run out.
You're adapting your life to work around your phone, it should be the other way round.

Don't get me wrong, I like the iPhone, on the whole an impressive bit of kit but the batter life IS st and, for me, unacceptable in a phone. Like a car, it doesn't matter how good it is if the petrol tank range is tiny, it just wouldn't be a practical proposition.

If and when they make one that only has to be charged once a week (twice if I'm using it a lot) then I may consider one.

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

247 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Dracoro said:
Because it's like a car with a 100mile range, I can fill my car up every morning with petrol of course, it's not too hard but it would be bl**dy annoying.

When you go away for a weekend or overnight, you have to have to take a charger.
Wherever you go, you need somewhere to plug charger into.
Whenever you go, you have to check how much power you have in case it'll run out.
You're adapting your life to work around your phone, it should be the other way round.

Don't get me wrong, I like the iPhone, on the whole an impressive bit of kit but the batter life IS st and, for me, unacceptable in a phone. Like a car, it doesn't matter how good it is if the petrol tank range is tiny, it just wouldn't be a practical proposition.

If and when they make one that only has to be charged once a week (twice if I'm using it a lot) then I may consider one.
You'll never have one then, or in fact any high-end handset. Part and parcel of having a phone with a large screen and a load of features is that, invariably, you will use those features and that screen, and hence the battery will get a hammering. I'll make no bones about it, there is no handset out there that does so much and yet has a fantastic battery life.

The thing is, charging a phone for me is an effortless task - simply put it on charge every night before I go to sleep. Takes perhaps five seconds to stick the iPhone on its dock. Even supposing I was going away and needed to take the wall charger with me (not exactly stressful in itself), it can only take perhaps ten-to-fifteen seconds to stick said charger in the wall and plug the other end in to the iPhone. And in any case, for me charging is only needed every other night (or even occasionally every third night) unless I've been using the GPS. True, you couldn't take the iPhone on a week-long camping trip with no access to power and then expect it to work for the whole journey, but then you could say the same about 95% of handsets.

Filling a car is a completely different analogy in my opinion - a bit more effort needed to fill a car with fuel, and you'd never have to charge a phone multiple times during a day (I once spent six hours on a train using the wifi on my iPhone the whole time, and only used half the battery).

The thing with an iPhone - or indeed any other well-specified handset - is that the battery will last for ages if you just use it as a telephone. I can get three days out of mine with perhaps twenty mins of wifi use per day, so I could probably get four days or so out of it if I just made and received calls and texts - that is no worse than the vast majority of so-called 'basic' handsets nowadays (long gone are the days of 6210/8910 10-day battery lifespans).

Edited by ehyouwhat on Wednesday 10th December 08:55

Dracoro

9,026 posts

274 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Before it started playing up after about a year, my SE K850i lasted a week.

I'm currently, temporarily, using an 02 PDA orbit and that lasts 4/5 days. Not a big fan of the phone itself but as I say, I'm only using it for a few weeks. If it only lasted a day or two then I wouldn't even bother, I'd dig out my old T610 or nokia.

Of course the extra, often pointless, gadgets and flashy screens means battery life is compromised but one would expect battery technology to advance as well.

Out of interest, where would you draw the line, battery life wise?

The battery life if crap, full stop. If you can live with it, great but it puts off a lot of people.

For sure, if you only used the iPhone as a phone and texter then the battery life can be acceptable to you. However, if all you are doing is using it as a phone and texter then it's a bit overkill isn't it!

Edited by Dracoro on Wednesday 10th December 09:12

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

247 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Dracoro said:
Before it started playing up after about a year, my SE K850i lasted a week.

I'm currently, temporarily, using an 02 PDA orbit and that lasts 4/5 days. Not a big fan of the phone itself but as I say, I'm only using it for a few weeks. If it only lasted a day or two then I wouldn't even bother, I'd dig out my old T610 or nokia.

Of course the extra, often pointless, gadgets and flashy screens means battery life is compromised but one would expect battery technology to advance as well.

Out of interest, where would you draw the line, battery life wise?

The battery life if crap, full stop. If you can live with it, great but it puts off a lot of people.
All fair enough, but in battery-sapping terms neither the K850i and Orbit (I own both) are in the same league as the iPhone - they just don't have the same power-hungry interface and, for the most part, are just not as sophisticated. In any case I would say I'd get a similar amount of 'mileage' out of my Orbit as I would out of my iPhone, and the clunky OS on the Orbit would be an inconvenience to me.

In terms or where I'd draw the line, I would say that I wouldn't accept a handset that absolutely needed to be charged every night; that is to say that a handset that cannot possibly last into a second day would be a no-no. The iPhone, and indeed the vast majority of other high-end handsets, would only last such a short period of time should they be in constant full-speed use, which is fair play really as far as I am concerned.

Choosing a handset that suits is all about compromise - if you need great battery life - and some people do - then don't choose a graphics-intensive model with wifi, GPS, 3G and bluetooth.

Until recently I spent a number of years testing handsets of all descriptions, and battery technology just has not progressed as quickly as other developments - many handsets are now power-hungry, but often only if the extra features they have are being used. Older handsets of years ago would not have performed so well had they the wealth of extra facilities that modern models have.

I will conceed however, that the main battery fault suffered by the iPhone is the fact that the battery cannot be swapped out for a freshly-charged one.

ETA: If you could get a week out of a K850i, then either you weren't using it very much or you were an extremely lucky individual.

Edited by ehyouwhat on Wednesday 10th December 09:26

The Dude

6,546 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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willd58 said:
Dracoro said:
A pity as I like the iPhone but high up on my priorities for a phone is to only have to charge it once a week, twice at a push.
Whats so difficult about putting a phone on charge over night?
If I'm using mine normally I only have to charge it once a week, if not less.

However, you do find it's like a little Fisher Price Activity Centre. As a consequence, you might find yourself charging it more frequently.

smile

The Dude

6,546 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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Dracoro said:
Because it's like a car with a 100mile range, I can fill my car up every morning with petrol of course, it's not too hard but it would be bl**dy annoying.

When you go away for a weekend or overnight, you have to have to take a charger.
Wherever you go, you need somewhere to plug charger into.
Whenever you go, you have to check how much power you have in case it'll run out.
You're adapting your life to work around your phone, it should be the other way round.

Don't get me wrong, I like the iPhone, on the whole an impressive bit of kit but the batter life IS st and, for me, unacceptable in a phone. Like a car, it doesn't matter how good it is if the petrol tank range is tiny, it just wouldn't be a practical proposition.

If and when they make one that only has to be charged once a week (twice if I'm using it a lot) then I may consider one.
Can I ask, have you actually got an iPhone?