RAM Issues

Author
Discussion

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Monday 4th February 2008
quotequote all
My rather aging Mesh is slowly dieing it seems.

When using Photoshop 2, it keeps on saying that I can't do stuff as there is not enough RAM.

I am running a 2.4Ghz AMD processor, with 1.25Gb Ram, which has worked fine.

I am in line to get a new one under new cpu budget, but it will be a while.

Is there an online test I can run to see if RAM is playing up?

On the subject of a new computer, what should I go for in terms of brands? (not mac ...)

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Monday 4th February 2008
quotequote all
I have run cccleaner, I have it on my laptop, but forget to put it on the workhorse.

Will have to see how it goes ... to be honest, I want a new PC so won't try too hard wink ...

I have had a look at a mac, but my requirements are:

has to run perfectly on our network, at all times
budget is obviously an issue (circa £1K w/o screen)

I already have CS2.3, so need to check the license side of things, but thinking that I will install on both the PC's, as they will both be "mine."

I enjoy the familarility of the PC infrastructure, as of course any PC is covered under our maintenance agreement, not something that would be extended to a mac.

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Monday 4th February 2008
quotequote all
ok, here's a question that would probably be a deal breaker.

I have CS2.3 on my PC, but is it possible to upgrade that to CS3 on a MAC?

The cost of re-buying CS3 from scratch for the Mac format kinda turns me off the idea

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Monday 4th February 2008
quotequote all
good stuff ... I will look into it then.

Obviously there is the RRP on the Apple site, any ways (other than studentdom) getting those prices down?

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Monday 4th February 2008
quotequote all
ok, so I am looking at then a iMac, 20-inch, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, with 2Gb RAM (4Gb is a huge price increase), with a few extras, works out at about £1K.

I will need to add the upgrade to that, which is about £190, so not too bad.

What are my options regarding PC Virtualisation? I know that I can obviously boot Windows using the Mac, but is there another option? Can I run both at the same time?

If I am up North, often I will use RealVNC to control a PC in Surrey, is there the same option? (You can tell that I am a mac newbie ...)


croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
cyberface said:
croxsons said:
ok, here's a question that would probably be a deal breaker.

I have CS2.3 on my PC, but is it possible to upgrade that to CS3 on a MAC?

The cost of re-buying CS3 from scratch for the Mac format kinda turns me off the idea
That's a cross-grade... Adobe do a deal, not sure if it's competitive or not. You'll have to ask Adobe.

However you can buy a Mac and run Windows on it. Either full-time (i.e. the Mac is just another PC, running Windows, that happens to be astonishingly good power for money at the moment), or in virtualisation (i.e. OS X as your main OS, but use VMware or Parallels to run your existing CS2.3 licence on Windows in a, well, window). The only additional cost is a copy of Windows.

If you take the first route, then buying the Mac is no different to buying any other PC, except you have to bung your own copy of Windows on it (Apple won't sell you Windows, obviously). It hurts me to say so, but Apple Macs are now just fully Windows-compatible PCs.

If you take the second route, with OS X as your main OS and Windows in virtualisation for your key apps, then don't worry - OS X integrates fine with Windows networks. Only if you're using Outlook to the full can things get tricky - otherwise it'll integrate into Active Directory, print to your printers, share network shares and share out to other PCs, etc. It all 'just works' - and the stuff that doesn't 'just work' can be made to work with a bit of unix voodoo.

I only suggested it because of the Mac price/performance ratio at the moment. I'm trying to get away from one of the berks who suggests a Mac to anyone asking about a PC, especially when they say 'no Macs'... hehe If you don't like OS X, fair enough, run Windows on it. It's just a PC at the end of the day, though you'll make it cry if you use Boot Camp. frown
I will see if I can find someone to ask about the cross-grade. I have a copy of Windows XP Pro (*cough OEM multi-license) so that is no issue, though in reality if a MAC can link into the network with no problems, then I would only use the windows side for Access work. I will have a little 12" laptop for email and word etc, so the MAC would be for graphics et al

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
had a look at MemCheck, but am now confused ... only found some very simple websites with no html formatting ... am I going wrong?

Is there an ISO file (or similar) that I can download and burn onto a CD?

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
LukeBird said:
croxsons said:
had a look at MemCheck, but am now confused ... only found some very simple websites with no html formatting ... am I going wrong?

Is there an ISO file (or similar) that I can download and burn onto a CD?
This be what you're looking for -
http://www.memtest86.com/
click "free download" you can either run it in windows or create a bootable CD.
I've done both smile
done, but it does take a bit of time does it not.

Will be interesting to see what it comes up with. I am looking at taking it up upto 2Gb anyhow, so thinking that it would be best to just replace the lot with 2 1Gb sticks.

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
2 hours 30 mins in, and it is at 95%, I have just left it running, but no errors thus far ...

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
LukeBird said:
croxsons said:
ok, here's a question that would probably be a deal breaker.

I have CS2.3 on my PC, but is it possible to upgrade that to CS3 on a MAC?

The cost of re-buying CS3 from scratch for the Mac format kinda turns me off the idea
Yeah, can't see why you'd have any problem doing that. smile
I had a chat to a French bloke at Adobe Customer Services. They will issue a MAC version for free if I agree to uninstall and stop using the PC version. I can then upgrade accordingly.

If I did this, what is the risk of anyone finding out if a copy of Photoshop was still installed on an old computer that wasn't really used that much?

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
the results of the MemCheck were negative, no problems at all.

Any other musings?

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
I have a 128mb graphics card, could that throw up the same error?

I will try and re-create it, and state exactly what it says ...

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
I have just opened up Illustrator and Photoshop, and chucked 61 high res images, and it came up with the familar message of:

Could not complete your request becuase there is not enough memory (RAM).

Ok, the above test is extreme and not representatitve of the work that I do, not even close, but at least I can re-create it ...

Normally I will only have one file open at a time, maybe having both Photoshop and Illustrator open at the same time, copying stuff across, manipulating PDF's, but nothing too strenous I would have thought.

croxsons

Original Poster:

1,843 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
quotequote all
another error I just also, having just shut down Photoshop:

The instruction at "0x03f9d17c" referenced memory at "ox000000114". The memory could not be "read".

Click on OK to terminate the program.