ADSL2 questions

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smartie

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Help would be appreciated before I sign up with the wrong ISP!

Currently with BT and due to a very long line I'm on a fixed 512K rate (ie NOT ADSL max).

My next door neighbour is with Sky and gets 2mb on their LLU service.

I'm tempted to sign up with Be to get LLU (Be rather than Sky as they don't need a 12m contract)

Will this get me a faster rate than signing up with someone like Zen?

Cost isn't really an issue - I would happily pay £40pm for 2mb!

HELP!

smartie

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These are the specs off my router if it helps:

Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 576 Kbps 288 Kbps
Noise Margin 9.1 dB 24.0 dB
Line Attenuation 59.0 dB 31.5 dB
Output Power 15.1 dBm 11.9 dBm

smartie

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no, I'm in the back of beyond hence the long line - no cable, only just get sky satellite!! (due to tree coverage! LOL)

smartie

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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
Noise margin of 9db on downstream is about the limit. Any less and you might start getting dropouts.
sorry, I'm a bit ignorant of what the numbers actually mean - do you mean I won't get much faster?

smartie

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Had a BT engineer here for 2 whole days last year!! It's as good as they can get it, though the engineer did think I could go faster than 512K but couldn't gurantee the reliability so I left it. It's been really annoying me of late though.

smartie

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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
smartie said:
Had a BT engineer here for 2 whole days last year!! It's as good as they can get it, though the engineer did think I could go faster than 512K but couldn't gurantee the reliability so I left it. It's been really annoying me of late though.
Well, unless your wiring has changing it'll still be the same, so that's your lot I'd say. ADSL2 probably won't be any better either. Your neighbour has better wiring than you most likely. It happens. Sorry.
time to buy him a wireless router maybe! biggrin

smartie

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so, assuming I can go no faster, I'm still keen to move from BT. Where should I go or is it just a case of looking for the cheapest deal?

Would going with Zen make things any better than they are now or should I just give sky £5 a month and save the cash?

smartie

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samknows reckons i might get 1mb, so I've signed up zen (no contract and decent support) and I'll see what happens!!

smartie

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Ash 996 GT2 said:
Makes no difference.

you can order MAX, you will not get any faster.

It is all about distance, I have the sme problem at home.

Unless there is an exchange closer, forget it.

I may be proven wrong by someone else.
The point is though that it was a fixed 512KB line so couldn't go any faster regardless.

Worth a try anyway, and should be easy enough to cancel zen if no better.

smartie

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wiggy001 said:
Have you considered mobile broadband from someone like carphonewarehouse?

Just a thought.
It's not a bad idea and I've just had a look, but..............

I don't want to sign up to a 12m contract if the coverage is patchy
and most only allow 7gb d/l a month.

Could be worth a serious look though.

shout WHERE IS THAT WIMAX I WAS PROMISED!!

smartie

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Tuesday 13th May 2008
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www.samknows.com is worth a look - click on a map and it gives distance to exchange and likely max speeds.

smartie

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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now running with Zen and modem connects at 832K, previously was 576k; however, speedtest now showing 250K where previously was 500k ish! Only swapped over tonight so might this improve?

Any explantion of the modem connection vs. the d/l speeds?

smartie

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Saturday 17th May 2008
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LivinLaVidaLotus said:
As has been said a 9dB margin is about the limit, so you won't get any faster, no reliably, have you checked all your internal wiring? Have you tried the router plugged directly in to the master socket? (Take the front of the main BT box off, then plug the cable from the router directly, no filters or anything else, in to the socket on the box). If you do that, then see what stats you get, if you get higher than 9dB margin, then the problem is your internal wiring.
Straight into the master socket, no other phones connected in the house except for a DECT cordless into the same master socket. Sky box not plugged in either.

I really do feel like a second class BB customer and all because we live a few miles from the exchange - it's so frustrating.

The BT engineer I spoke to said things could be improved hugely if BT were to boost signals from the green roadside cabinets, but they have no plans to do this at the moment. Any ideas why?


Smartie

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Sunday 18th May 2008
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now at 702k - so a little better!

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Thursday 22nd May 2008
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just signed up to Vodafone mobile broadband and now getting 1.3mbps, seems pretty good!

smartie

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Thursday 22nd May 2008
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needs must - that or currently at 135K with Zen!!