Great Italian car thread
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jacklewisno1 said:
Sorry for the late reply, ive been busy with work.
For a million squid hmmmm....you could get a whole host of different cars. F40, LP-670, GT3 and Stratos maybe. Or if you were talking about buying one car with a million squids then the Maser' is a good shout. But you could buy the Mclaren MP4 Can-am for a few hundred grand, come to think of it you could probably have as much fun in an Ariel Atom or a Caterham.
I wish i was really in the position to choose
Its rather tricky, I think I might have to go to Zagato and get a one off made, although I don't think 1mill will cut it! For a million squid hmmmm....you could get a whole host of different cars. F40, LP-670, GT3 and Stratos maybe. Or if you were talking about buying one car with a million squids then the Maser' is a good shout. But you could buy the Mclaren MP4 Can-am for a few hundred grand, come to think of it you could probably have as much fun in an Ariel Atom or a Caterham.
I wish i was really in the position to choose
Ive got a thing for lambos recently, always have, but the LP570-4 Superleggera seems like such a great everyday supercar, such a special car, and shouldnt be too focussed to be a pain.
Although perhaps I could get a 550-2 with all the nice CF bits from the superleggera...
jacklewisno1 said:
Ahh yes very nice, but not in that colour perhaps! Does that only come with an automatic?
Ive just found out that i can insure a RS4 B5 for the same as the Abarth, feeling rather chuffed
I like the colour, normally I go with default Fantuzzi black on most cars, but I might be tempted to get one in white, Gallardo's look stunning in white, especially with the cf front.Ive just found out that i can insure a RS4 B5 for the same as the Abarth, feeling rather chuffed
Very art deco.
Do you want an estate now? Have you got a girl pregnant or bought a dog?
The b7 rs4 saloons looked insanely good, as do the a5s, lovely lines on some of the audis.
Insurance is a jolly funny thing, Scuderias the same as focus ST's, 1.2 clios are the same a v8 mercs - no logic to these things!
On the Italian and great side of things, the 458 special - what do you think of it? Not a fan of the looks but rather impressive from all I've read.
Strangely the most impressive thing to me was that with 594 bhp from a n/a 4.5litre v8 the co2 was 275- that's mental.
Further more the f12 is only 350, with 700+ bhp from a 9000rpm v12!
I am sad I know...
jacklewisno1 said:
Fantuzzi said:
I like the colour, normally I go with default Fantuzzi black on most cars, but I might be tempted to get one in white, Gallardo's look stunning in white, especially with the cf front.
Very art deco.
Do you want an estate now? Have you got a girl pregnant or bought a dog?
The b7 rs4 saloons looked insanely good, as do the a5s, lovely lines on some of the audis.
Insurance is a jolly funny thing, Scuderias the same as focus ST's, 1.2 clios are the same a v8 mercs - no logic to these things!
On the Italian and great side of things, the 458 special - what do you think of it? Not a fan of the looks but rather impressive from all I've read.
Strangely the most impressive thing to me was that with 594 bhp from a n/a 4.5litre v8 the co2 was 275- that's mental.
Further more the f12 is only 350, with 700+ bhp from a 9000rpm v12!
I am sad I know...
No nobody's pregnant and unfortunately i don't have room for a dog. Ive just always liked the look of them though (RS4's not dogs). I think its the idea of an estate that can achieve 0-60 in less than 5 sec's, its just an insane concept.Very art deco.
Do you want an estate now? Have you got a girl pregnant or bought a dog?
The b7 rs4 saloons looked insanely good, as do the a5s, lovely lines on some of the audis.
Insurance is a jolly funny thing, Scuderias the same as focus ST's, 1.2 clios are the same a v8 mercs - no logic to these things!
On the Italian and great side of things, the 458 special - what do you think of it? Not a fan of the looks but rather impressive from all I've read.
Strangely the most impressive thing to me was that with 594 bhp from a n/a 4.5litre v8 the co2 was 275- that's mental.
Further more the f12 is only 350, with 700+ bhp from a 9000rpm v12!
I am sad I know...
I drove the Abarth at lets say some 'interesting speeds' down through the single track country lanes to my parents house last night. It occurred to me when i had arrived and sat down for a cup of tea, that it wouldn't have mattered what car i was in, be it a Lambo or the like, that i couldn't have gone any faster. For everyday driving its fast enough for what i need. So with that in mind i probably wouldn't get the RS4, despite how tempting it might be. Apart from the tiny boot, the A500 is fine for me in pretty much every respect.
The bloke i bought my exhaust from had sold his Abarth for an RS6. It had been re-mapped and had a Miltek exhaust fitted, achieving 510BHP on the dyno. He said on the motorway it was more comfortable and refined, but as soon as you hit twisty B roads it just wasnt as much fun as the Abarth.
I think its good to appreciate what you have sometimes, so for now the Abarths staying put.
As for the 458, well my only source of info for it is this..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry_Ywh8I9-4&list=PL32917AB9DF8D1D9C&feature=c4-overview-vl
It seems outstanding to drive. I'd happily own one, but i expect a MP4 12-C would be easier to live with and probably just as good to drive. I actually think the 430 Scud in the vid was better looking too.
The Co2 figures for it are amazing, that would make it cheaper to tax than the RS4!!!
I prefer the scuds looks as well, pretty awesome looking car, 458 speciale seems so much more complete than the 458 from all accounts, still don't like the speciales looks though.
jacklewisno1 said:
What the f
k it did an endo! How the hell did it manage that!http://www.petrolicious.com/wistfully-watching-my-...
2 Ferrari F1 cars (one 90s era - my favourite), 2 8cs, a rather awesome selection of GTAs, f40, f50, tz1
2 Ferrari F1 cars (one 90s era - my favourite), 2 8cs, a rather awesome selection of GTAs, f40, f50, tz1
jacklewisno1 said:
Fantuzzi said:
What the fk it did an endo! How the hell did it manage that!
Whats an endo? I typed it into Google and it tells me its either an ethnic group in Kenya or the tips of a Marijuana plant. I didn't see either in the video.k it did an endo! How the hell did it manage that!https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bmx+endo&rls...
gforceg said:
I dropped this into a thread in Readers' cars and it was suggested it might be of particular interest in this section.
An interesting rarity...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C472447
That is pretty cool!An interesting rarity...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C472447
Thanks for posting it.
I saw a little Fiat 126 driven near our local a level college, in polski colours. Went and had a closer look, IT had abarth badges.
Googles later and there didn't seem to be an Abarth 126, and the rally versions all seemed to have FIAT badges.
I have some serious want for a little Abarth.
Jack, Ive changed my mind, Abarth should do a small sports car not with a 1.3 as Ive mentioned but the twin air unit. 800kg chassis, 99g/co2, 0-60 of a twingo 133 if fettled with the gearing a bit (who wants top end?).
I would love something cute and scorpion badged, but they seem to be rare or rather pricey!
I think sadly a lovely little 695 SS would be out of my price range, and then once you get to silly money for a 40hp hatch (they're already 40k!) you start finding better things to spend your cash on!
I think sadly a lovely little 695 SS would be out of my price range, and then once you get to silly money for a 40hp hatch (they're already 40k!) you start finding better things to spend your cash on!
jacklewisno1 said:
Found this on the A112 website..
Rather cool and i imagine unique too!
This pic was on the Abarth Facebook page a while ago..
I like the Idea of a twin air engine in a a lightweight car too. The 500 twinair weighs not much more than 800kg IIRC. Certainly the 1.2 Pop i had weighed 853kg.
I reckon you could go lighter still. I suppose that would make it perform about the same as the current Abarth though and it may not be much cheaper.
Im back abroad so my replies may be few and far between for a couple of months.
Yeah something like 750kg would mean 115bhp/tone, get the speed around Suzuki swift sport level and you'll have a rather fun, economical little car that would sell.Rather cool and i imagine unique too!
This pic was on the Abarth Facebook page a while ago..
I like the Idea of a twin air engine in a a lightweight car too. The 500 twinair weighs not much more than 800kg IIRC. Certainly the 1.2 Pop i had weighed 853kg.
I reckon you could go lighter still. I suppose that would make it perform about the same as the current Abarth though and it may not be much cheaper.
Im back abroad so my replies may be few and far between for a couple of months.
I should get a job at fiat.
No worries Jack, I take it its not somewhere nice with your job!
Liquid Knight said:
I'm not sure if this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111274087189?ssPageName=...
...qualifies as "Great" but bloody cheap springs to mind.
Go start your own 'bloody cheap Italian car thread'... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111274087189?ssPageName=...
...qualifies as "Great" but bloody cheap springs to mind.
Ive always thought the sporting puntos look really good, was tempted by one when I was younger.
Liquid Knight said:
Fantuzzi said:
Liquid Knight said:
I'm not sure if this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111274087189?ssPageName=...
...qualifies as "Great" but bloody cheap springs to mind.
Go start your own 'bloody cheap Italian car thread'... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111274087189?ssPageName=...
...qualifies as "Great" but bloody cheap springs to mind.
Ive always thought the sporting puntos look really good, was tempted by one when I was younger.
coetzeeh said:
coetzeeh said:
The red Veloce during strip down
Update on the red Veloce - small steps.
Great Stratos and Fulvia pics Iva, nice to see Martini colours back in racing with Williams!
coetzeeh said:
Fantuzzi said:
Very nice, are you restoring it as it was, or are you doing something special with it? Sorry if you've already said!
I bought the car with a first series 1750 engine from an early Berlina fitted - the engine pulled well but I had it overhauled for good measure. Found the con rods fitted back to front which is not an uncommon mistake.Otherwise the car will stay standard other than a slightly more modern suspension.
They do a plethora of mods for lots of Classic Alfa,
http://www.alfaholics.com/browse-parts-by-car/
coetzeeh said:
Fantuzzi said:
I take it you are familiar with Alfaholics in Bristol?
They do a plethora of mods for lots of Classic Alfa,
http://www.alfaholics.com/browse-parts-by-car/
sigh,.... yes I do - I have a small sofa and found only a few coins...They do a plethora of mods for lots of Classic Alfa,
http://www.alfaholics.com/browse-parts-by-car/
, yeah I'm slightly worried for the future, I keep seeing Giulietta spiders and thinking what fun it would be to get the engine to the 116bhp of the Zagato racer, taking of the chrome and having the boys in Bristol tart up the dynamics.But then what a car it would be...
Saw an X/19 the other day, really nice, despite not being the best condition.
Monaco May 10th RM auctions, tasty tasty car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTG6N3lSaTw
Skip to about 2.45 if you don't like engine sound foreplay.
Stunning, think its a 182
Im in a v12 F1 mood
Lets have some Ferraris in this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTeZRlpVweo
Skip to about 2.45 if you don't like engine sound foreplay.
Stunning, think its a 182
Im in a v12 F1 mood
Lets have some Ferraris in this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTeZRlpVweo
After watching Monaco Historique I started to look up the Alfa p3.
fk me they are amazing. The weight of the things is mental, according to wiki they were 680kg (dry one guesses) but Ive seen it stated from 700-770, so who knows. But when you remember that the superlight Bugatti 35 was 750ish, it makes the 190bhp it made from its supercharged 8cylinder all the more mad. That's 250 bhp/tonne with no seat belts and skinny tyres. That 100 more than the Bugattis and only 50 less than the 4 and a half litre Bently, which was more than double the weight.
Tazio, I applaud thee.
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k me they are amazing. The weight of the things is mental, according to wiki they were 680kg (dry one guesses) but Ive seen it stated from 700-770, so who knows. But when you remember that the superlight Bugatti 35 was 750ish, it makes the 190bhp it made from its supercharged 8cylinder all the more mad. That's 250 bhp/tonne with no seat belts and skinny tyres. That 100 more than the Bugattis and only 50 less than the 4 and a half litre Bently, which was more than double the weight.Tazio, I applaud thee.
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