GT - should I buy one?
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nixB10

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59 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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I'm currently considering buying a GT around 2004/5. I've never owned an Alfa. What should I look out for on that model? My preference leans towards the JTD at the moment but I may well go for the 2.0 JTS.

crostonian

2,427 posts

192 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Good choice, either model is OK and the petrol will be newer and/or lower mileage. Check when the cambelts last been done (due at 36k on JTS, 60K on JTD) check the JTS for EOBD lights, make sure the clutch is OK on the JTD, otherwise just buy the car you most feel comfortable with. Ignore the Alfa doom mongers and also ignore the so called Alfa specialists who prey on buyers fears. They are strong cars, better than contemporary Germans and much cheaper to repair.

RenesisEvo

3,815 posts

239 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I'm also considering a GT, in fact I'm viewing a 3.2 V6 at the weekend. Anything in particular to be wary of? This one has done 95k, so the service history will be gone over with a fine-toothed comb. I'm in no rush to buy, but looking forward to sampling it.

robsco

7,875 posts

196 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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V6s should have had belts replaced, and preferably an upgrade to the water pump with a metal impeller rather than the standard plastic. Alfa set the intervals at 72k/5yrs - I worked on 48k/4yrs as most people did. The V6s are a bulletproof engine otherwise. The biggest thing with GTs is fit and finish; they use the 147 dash and some of the quality here and there can be a bit shoddy, but the mechanicals in general are superb.

nixB10

Original Poster:

59 posts

244 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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What's a realistic mpg for the petrol 2.0 JTS?

alfa pint

3,856 posts

231 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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nixB10 said:
What's a realistic mpg for the petrol 2.0 JTS?
I can eek mid 30s out on a good run, but realistically about 30-32 mpg.

RenesisEvo

3,815 posts

239 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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robsco said:
V6s should have had belts replaced, and preferably an upgrade to the water pump with a metal impeller rather than the standard plastic. Alfa set the intervals at 72k/5yrs - I worked on 48k/4yrs as most people did. The V6s are a bulletproof engine otherwise. The biggest thing with GTs is fit and finish; they use the 147 dash and some of the quality here and there can be a bit shoddy, but the mechanicals in general are superb.
Thanks for the advice. It claims to have had the belt done, will check for evidence of that and a metal impeller.

OperationAlfa

2,014 posts

217 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I would definitely get the JTD over the JTS, the JTS engine is terrible.

If you can, have a look at the 3.2 if it's feasible for you.

anonymous-user

74 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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OperationAlfa said:
I would definitely get the JTD over the JTS, the JTS engine is terrible.

If you can, have a look at the 3.2 if it's feasible for you.
Not wanting to cause an argument here but I really like my JTS engine, sound, power delivery, smoothness etc! What is it that makes it terrible in your opinion? I would love a 3.2, made the decision to go for a 2.0 because of the amount of miles I was travelling and soon after got a job closer to home so a 3.2 would have been feasible in the end. The 3.2 engine alone is worth buying a GT for, plus the possibility of adding an LSD. I like to think the inference that a 2.0 is less nose heavy than a 3.2 is true as it makes me feel better!

k15tox

1,680 posts

201 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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do it.

bought mine a month ago, a gibianno blue jtd.

looks really nice, goes well for a derv (angel remap)

much better than a german 'clit' car

OperationAlfa

2,014 posts

217 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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anonymous said:
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There was a load of problems with the early ones causing deposit build ups in the valves which meant a load of them were down on power considerably. I've even seen one GT where the engine threw a conrod into the passenger footwell!!

anonymous-user

74 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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OperationAlfa said:
There was a load of problems with the early ones causing deposit build ups in the valves which meant a load of them were down on power considerably. I've even seen one GT where the engine threw a conrod into the passenger footwell!!
I'm sure they've solved that by now although I hope conrods being chucked at passengers is not a common occurence?!!!!

robsco

7,875 posts

196 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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RenesisEvo said:
Thanks for the advice. It claims to have had the belt done, will check for evidence of that and a metal impeller.
Also be certain that its not just the cambelt that was replaced - it should have had all idlers, tensioners, pulleys and the aforementioned water pump replaced too at the same time. After all, these are just as likely to fail as the belt itself, so its vital that these are done too.

OperationAlfa

2,014 posts

217 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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anonymous said:
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Thankfully not. I've probably been a bit harsh, but I'm just not that keen on them. They do drive ok.. Just most specialists dont like them.

RenesisEvo

3,815 posts

239 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Back from my little test drive!

I wish I hadn't gone now... because now I really want one! What a noise! A great engine, I could drive it almost like my diesel, but it sings and responds cleanly and well in all gears. Gear shift a little slack and clutch a little heavy but seemd ok. Didn't detect any noises from the suspension. All the MoT certificates were present, plenty of main dealer stamps and receipts. Dealer was spot on, a pleasure to deal with.

However, a few things put me off. It's on 97k, but the clocks are on 65k (reverse clocking? No, fuel gauge was broken apparently), the coolant level was well below the Min marker when I checked it, and I couldn't get the electric mirrors to respond on either side. And I had to really turn up the radio before I could hear it, front speakers might have not been working. A lovely car, but I think it might be wise to spend a bit more on a lower mileage one.

Feel free to PM if you want to know what specific car I viewed.

Kinky

39,892 posts

289 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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You won't go wrong smile

nixB10

Original Poster:

59 posts

244 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Thanks for all the comments guys. Well I test drove a couple of '04 JTS's and an '05 JDT today. They really are beautiful to look at and I found the interior very comfortable which is fortunate as I am over 6 foot. I had no particular preference of the JDT over the JTS. The downside for me was the ride quality, I was surprised that it wasn't a lot smoother. I wasn't put off but just not totally convinced.

Edited by nixB10 on Saturday 5th November 21:20

Kinky

39,892 posts

289 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Lots of useful links here for you (scroll down a bit): http://www.pistonheads.com/members/showcar.asp?car...

nixB10

Original Poster:

59 posts

244 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Kinky said:
Lots of useful links here for you (scroll down a bit): http://www.pistonheads.com/members/showcar.asp?car...
Thanks for that thumbup

Kinky

39,892 posts

289 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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thumbup

Glad to help smile