Design my extension & hopefully build thread with updates!

Design my extension & hopefully build thread with updates!

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Pheo

3,324 posts

201 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Do you need reception 2? How do you plan to use the space? Also, I'd turn the garage essentially into a utility room, storage room, so have your washer/dryer etc in there, freeing up kitchen space.

If structurally possible, I wonder if you could create a "grand designs" style open plan area at the back with large dining table etc, and then maybe move reception 1's wall backwards a bit to make a large TV/lounge room thats away?

But - how do you like to use the space? You are talking to someone who made their small terrace mainly open plan, which works for us, mighty not for you!

Pheo

3,324 posts

201 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Thats fair enough - where is your man cave going wink I can imagine an additional reception room would be nice if you did have more than the two of you! Also, for some reason, your plans make it feel small, but then when I read the dimensions its pretty big.

How do you plan to layout the open plan area?

Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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That reception 2 is taking up a lot of space, the kitchen diner can act as the reception 2 if you stick a comfy sofa area in there.

Maybe shrink recception 2 and think of more useful stuff such as a bathroom with a door that opens in!, utility room for washing machine, laundry, ironing etc. And lots of storage cupboards/larder.

Assuming you have enough space under stairs to store coats and shoes.

Think of where you want kids to dump their muddy shoes/clothes after they have been out in garden.

Think of where you want stuff on outside rear wall. If you want lights/wall mounted hose reel, garden taps etc then make sure your bifold/other door is not too close to edge of house.

If south facing then factor in all the glass at the back, so take carer over the spec of the glass/add blinds/rooflight opens etc so not ridiculously hot in summer.

Edited by Yazar on Thursday 29th January 12:10

Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Fair enough. If you have lots of people over regularly then an option to swap over kitchen and dining so the latter is the larger area so can fit a bigger table.

Can also partition off a bit of the back of reception 2 to create a shallow depthed larder, as reception 2 still has the hallway entrance.

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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No, you'd run a steel beam front to rear from the end of the bi-folds and then a half width side to side onto that one smile

5potTurbo

12,482 posts

167 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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I feel sorry for the person having a tom-tim when someone else walks in from the garage wink

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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The quick fix for that would be to put the door to the garage in the hall.

Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Maybe an idea to stick a beam across the back of reception 2, then replace double doors to dining area with longest ones you can manage, such as full length bifolds rather than double doors.

So oh has her space, but for large gatherings converts to a larger space just by opening and closing them.

Even if you don't want to spend the thousands on a second pair of bifolds now, put beam in any way whilst already making a mess, ready for when bifolds become more common and cheap?

Edited by Yazar on Friday 30th January 09:24

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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anonymous said:
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That's optional. From what you've said regarding your wife's requirement for reception 2 I think that the wall will have to stay. I would put a steel post at the end of it.
anonymous said:
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As above: the return wall and the post.

Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Have you thought about any changes to the drainage aspect so you don't end up with a Saniflo for downstairs loo.

Plan what type of kitchen extractor you are putting in, where it will go and what path it will use to get external, same with the bathroom extractor.

Think about how you are heating the new room. If putting in a log burner decide where and how it will vent out.

insulation to go with the glass doors/roof. check what building regs will need as may want a particular u calculation if they consider it too much glazing.

Add more sound proofing to wall between reception 1 and 2 if needed so you don't get told to turn volume down when oh is in reception 2 meditating.

Edited by Yazar on Friday 30th January 11:41

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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anonymous said:
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Half a metre thick sound proofing? !!

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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anonymous said:
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Maybe but that's not a few hundred. (I would think that if you're concerned about space that you'd remove the existing plaster so the skim/finish would not count in the extra thickness sums.) I'd guess at 100mm, similar to you, but I don't know. http://www.soundstop.co.uk/soundproofing_walls.php ?

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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FWIW I don't think that 1m is enough room between the island and the worktop, esp. where you have things like cookers and dishwashers. I'd reduce the dims of the (large) island by 300 or 400mm to make the circulation space larger. Just my 2p worth smile

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Probably OK; you'd need to do some measuring and checking, i.e. how much room is there island to famous return wall and island to bathroom wall? You'd certainly get most of that change by moving the island so perhaps a little of each solution.

bigdom

2,072 posts

144 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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We're at the end of our extension build, just added bi-folds and (2) 3000mm x 2000mm roof lanterns - this helps us to frame the room below into two different zones. The roof specification on that span of lantern will add some costs, ours weigh in at 250kg each, and we have a central support - evidently our architect erred on the side of caution.

I wouldn't expect any issues on insulation so long as you choose the correct doors/windows. The rest can be pulled up in the remaining roof specification, I believe we have 130mm celotex in our roof.

As others have mentioned, utility room is a definite plus

Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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anonymous said:
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Is adding a lean to/side extension an option? Switch kitchen to other side and then stick a door into a utility room to stick washing machine and laundry basket in (could add a chute from bedroom window above to it hehe) Or even the loo so kids could use it from garden when out playing.

Also in an end terraced, I would be looking to move the dining area to side away from neighbours side so hear them less/can make more of my own noise.

As this would affect reception room 2, my last tip is to ditch the oh hehe

Edited by Yazar on Friday 30th January 14:18

bigdom

2,072 posts

144 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Bespoke will add around an extra £1500, based on the fact we made a cock-up on dimensions to the roofers, and ours weren't off the shelf items as originally planned cry

dxg

8,121 posts

259 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Which way is North - how much light will Reception 2 get?

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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No, but I have been mulling over your big f.o. skylight framing. I saw one the other day (not as large as the one that you are proposing) and the beams were deep - over 400mm deep with covering. There's a problem that the larger the skylight, the larger the beam which means that the tunnel effect is greater, reducing the open/light/air feeling; there may well be a sweet spot in the size of these things and I wonder whether you may have exceeded that.

singlecoil

33,311 posts

245 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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The Rangemaster cookers are good, but in the end it's a personal choice as the features, sizes,shapes shelf layout etc of ovens etc vary from one model to another and what suits one person may well not suit another.