Jamie's Sugar Rush
Discussion
On later tonight. Some of it may turn out to be relatively accurate but a lot of it is bound to be the usual exaggerated propaganda that comes up around every possible heath issue where someone can smell money or exposure to be had (see e-cigs/salt/sugar/fats/colourings/etc.)
I just wish the hypocritical fat tongued gimp would stop making these and spend more time with his vast piles of cash.
I just wish the hypocritical fat tongued gimp would stop making these and spend more time with his vast piles of cash.
Let me guess - he'll have a low sugar cook book coming out?
Secondly, can someone explain the ligic behind taxing sugar rich drinks? With reduced gubberment coffers from fags and booze, what an easy win!
Like they'd spend the tax earned on the NHS, education etc.
Sugar isn't the problem - crap/careless parenting is.
Secondly, can someone explain the ligic behind taxing sugar rich drinks? With reduced gubberment coffers from fags and booze, what an easy win!
Like they'd spend the tax earned on the NHS, education etc.
Sugar isn't the problem - crap/careless parenting is.
I don't quite get the hostility towards this program. Sure Jamie Oliver is a bit marmite, and I'd prefer he kept is emotional words in check to keep it strictly factual, but some of the stats were pretty horrific.
Also, who would have guessed how much sugar was in the example meals they cooked up? Did think cereal with milk AND yoghurt was a bit odd mind.
Also, who would have guessed how much sugar was in the example meals they cooked up? Did think cereal with milk AND yoghurt was a bit odd mind.
fatandwheezing said:
I don't quite get the hostility towards this program. Sure Jamie Oliver is a bit marmite, and I'd prefer he kept is emotional words in check to keep it strictly factual, but some of the stats were pretty horrific.
Also, who would have guessed how much sugar was in the example meals they cooked up? Did think cereal with milk AND yoghurt was a bit odd mind.
There was an important message behind the programme, but I agree that adding a flavoured yogurt to cereal (which has added sugar) instead of a natural yogurt (which doesn't) was labouring the point a bit, and the size of the glass of orange juice was huge too.Also, who would have guessed how much sugar was in the example meals they cooked up? Did think cereal with milk AND yoghurt was a bit odd mind.
I also have to agreed with other posts too: when a child is under six they're only eating/drinking what their parents give to them. If your child is overweight when they start school (and apparently one in five are) then I'm sorry but it's your fault.
We're lucky in that for some reason our 2yr olds favourite snack is a cream cracker. I think we're pretty good at giving her healthy meals and snacks, but we've definitely gone for the 'easy' option ourselves since she has been in our lives.
I'm also guilty of drinking that volvic fruit drink when I'm on the road, and confess I have never looked at the label.
I'm also guilty of drinking that volvic fruit drink when I'm on the road, and confess I have never looked at the label.
fatandwheezing said:
I don't quite get the hostility towards this program. Sure Jamie Oliver is a bit marmite, and I'd prefer he kept is emotional words in check to keep it strictly factual, but some of the stats were pretty horrific.
Also, who would have guessed how much sugar was in the example meals they cooked up? Did think cereal with milk AND yoghurt was a bit odd mind.
Indeed.Also, who would have guessed how much sugar was in the example meals they cooked up? Did think cereal with milk AND yoghurt was a bit odd mind.
Watched it now, the obfuscation by the food guy was typical of the sort of behaviour that has gone on for the last 40 odd years. Even now, on the verge of a diabetes epidemic (we've passed the obese starting line) the powers that be will not act with decency, and still go on about self-regulation, of both people's habit and the companies involved. I wonder when the f
kwits will change their tune? When no British kids have real teeth, or when they all have diabetes?Thank f
k there are people with profile who are chatting about this.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2997882/...
Halb said:
Indeed.
Watched it now, the obfuscation by the food guy was typical of the sort of behaviour that has gone on for the last 40 odd years. Even now, on the verge of a diabetes epidemic (we've passed the obese starting line) the powers that be will not act with decency, and still go on about self-regulation, of both people's habit and the companies involved. I wonder when the fkwits will change their tune? When no British kids have real teeth, or when they all have diabetes?
Thank fk there are people with profile who are chatting about this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2997882/...
You were doing well.... right up to the DM link Watched it now, the obfuscation by the food guy was typical of the sort of behaviour that has gone on for the last 40 odd years. Even now, on the verge of a diabetes epidemic (we've passed the obese starting line) the powers that be will not act with decency, and still go on about self-regulation, of both people's habit and the companies involved. I wonder when the f
kwits will change their tune? When no British kids have real teeth, or when they all have diabetes?Thank f
k there are people with profile who are chatting about this.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2997882/...
As usual - this is 'telly'. Facts are distorted/exagerrated for effect. Every year it's the same with some foodstuff or other being blamed for people's lack of self restraint. Sugar is this years 'villain'. Better to have a campaign to tell people to keep their chubby fingers out of the biscuit barrel and take responsibility for their own gluttony (and passing it onto their kids).
The only way the government could stop people buying it would be to ban from shops altogether. Will that happen? No, because why should the entire populace suffer for the sake of those who over indulge?
It's not that people don't know - it's that they simply don't care (or are in denial).... until it's too late.
High time people took responsibility for their own actions than to constantly blame it on someone else (government, food producers, retailers etc.).
First world problem.
Jamie Oliver is a nagging, lecturing, snooty middle class prick. He's quite happy to eat a pigs ahole cooked in filthy conditions as long as it's in some scenic Italian village and is authentically prepared by some wizened old crone in her backyard on one of his endless jollies. But if it's bits of animals hygienically prepared in a factory then suddenly it's evil filth. He may as well just admit he doesn't like the working class
hole cooked in filthy conditions as long as it's in some scenic Italian village and is authentically prepared by some wizened old crone in her backyard on one of his endless jollies. But if it's bits of animals hygienically prepared in a factory then suddenly it's evil filth. He may as well just admit he doesn't like the working class 
Bloody annoying programme.
eg. Acting all horrified that bread has sugar in it, he must know that yeast needs sugar to work, or you get flat breads
High horse about sugar in a range of food and the lack of transparency as to the quantities. Don't see him telling you the sugar quantities on the menu in his restaurants
eg. Acting all horrified that bread has sugar in it, he must know that yeast needs sugar to work, or you get flat breads
High horse about sugar in a range of food and the lack of transparency as to the quantities. Don't see him telling you the sugar quantities on the menu in his restaurants
blueg33 said:
Bloody annoying programme.
eg. Acting all horrified that bread has sugar in it, he must know that yeast needs sugar to work, or you get flat breads
High horse about sugar in a range of food and the lack of transparency as to the quantities. Don't see him telling you the sugar quantities on the menu in his restaurants
and quite happy to charge mugs 15 quid for a bowl of extremely average pasta. eg. Acting all horrified that bread has sugar in it, he must know that yeast needs sugar to work, or you get flat breads
High horse about sugar in a range of food and the lack of transparency as to the quantities. Don't see him telling you the sugar quantities on the menu in his restaurants
I thought it was a good programme about an important issue. The Cola Cola stuff in Mexico is a disgrace. I guess we are just used (in the UK) to having decent clean water pretty much anywhere.
But the chances of the current government doing anything are pretty much zero unless the EU acts. And without one or other of those, it's just going to get worse. Industry will do nothing.
But the chances of the current government doing anything are pretty much zero unless the EU acts. And without one or other of those, it's just going to get worse. Industry will do nothing.
Randy Winkman said:
I thought it was a good programme about an important issue. The Cola Cola stuff in Mexico is a disgrace. I guess we are just used (in the UK) to having decent clean water pretty much anywhere.
But the chances of the current government doing anything are pretty much zero unless the EU acts. And without one or other of those, it's just going to get worse. Industry will do nothing.
Indeed. Mexico has suffered from being in the USA's orbit too closely I would suppose.But the chances of the current government doing anything are pretty much zero unless the EU acts. And without one or other of those, it's just going to get worse. Industry will do nothing.
The WHO are making noises, but the food industry if not the most powerful is up there, especially the sugar industry. Everytime they try and speak, they get smashed. The minister always denies when he is asked about this and has tied to the food industry, I think I can recall.
I'm glad there is at least one person speaking sense in the public domain against the idiots and the pooh-poohers. But as you say, nowt will happen and the situation will continue to deteriorate.
Halb said:
Really? 
Genuinely. That wasn't a joke.All I had to eat for years was the controlled diet introduced partially as a result of his campaign.
I spent several years just weak and dizzy. I barely exercised because I'd faint if I tried.
I also believe that it affected my school work.
I despise the man. He doesn't care at all about schoolchildren - he cares about getting his face on TV because it gets him more money.
ETA: I'd go so far as to add that if I had to cause another human serious harm, I'd choose him. It's hard to explain the misery of fainting several times a week and having other boys at school laughing at you for being a weakling. But I was fine away from the school diet and I was fine before it was changed (mostly through fear of parents complaining about this after hearing what he had to say about it). In my darker moments I wonder if he did it to be vindictive, not just to make some money.
Edited by RobinBanks on Sunday 6th September 13:57
Edited by RobinBanks on Sunday 6th September 13:58
RobinBanks said:
Genuinely. That wasn't a joke.
All I had to eat for years was the controlled diet introduced partially as a result of his campaign.
I spent several years just weak and dizzy. I barely exercised because I'd faint if I tried.
I also believe that it affected my school work.
I despise the man. He doesn't care at all about schoolchildren - he cares about getting his face on TV because it gets him more money.
ETA: I'd go so far as to add that if I had to cause another human serious harm, I'd choose him. It's hard to explain the misery of fainting several times a week and having other boys at school laughing at you for being a weakling. But I was fine away from the school diet and I was fine before it was changed (mostly through fear of parents complaining about this after hearing what he had to say about it). In my darker moments I wonder if he did it to be vindictive, not just to make some money.
Did you not eat at home twice a day or at weekends and holidays?All I had to eat for years was the controlled diet introduced partially as a result of his campaign.
I spent several years just weak and dizzy. I barely exercised because I'd faint if I tried.
I also believe that it affected my school work.
I despise the man. He doesn't care at all about schoolchildren - he cares about getting his face on TV because it gets him more money.
ETA: I'd go so far as to add that if I had to cause another human serious harm, I'd choose him. It's hard to explain the misery of fainting several times a week and having other boys at school laughing at you for being a weakling. But I was fine away from the school diet and I was fine before it was changed (mostly through fear of parents complaining about this after hearing what he had to say about it). In my darker moments I wonder if he did it to be vindictive, not just to make some money.
Edited by RobinBanks on Sunday 6th September 13:57
Edited by RobinBanks on Sunday 6th September 13:58
Anyway, what happened to the other boys, were they not dropping like flies as well?
oscmax said:
Did you not eat at home twice a day or at weekends and holidays?
Anyway, what happened to the other boys, were they not dropping like flies as well?
Well, I did go home every four weeks for two nights.Anyway, what happened to the other boys, were they not dropping like flies as well?
I'm not entirely sure what it is, but I've had problems with hypoglycaemia for years. I'm very thin but I eat a lot more than would normally be recommended.
Still I feel it starting to drop off and I can sense a major headache or faint shortly before it happened. I fainted yesterday afternoon for instance.
It's a lot rarer now that I'm able to feed myself though and it only occasionally happens when I make a mistake.
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