Giving tradesmen house keys

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Original Poster:

924 posts

106 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Over the next few weeks we'll be having a few jobs done where we won't be able to be in the house and where the tradesmen involved will need access - even if just for toilets etc - but also to work on the jobs they are doing.

Any tips on best way to manage this? Do you get them to post key back through door at end of day?

Have you done this and had any problems with theft or loss of any kind?

Or just the feeling they've been through your stuff?

Rabbington On

14 posts

121 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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We've just had to do similar with plumbers and kitchen fitters. We've tried to be there to let them in in the morning and left them to let themselves out the front door. We only did this after having met them and felt comfortable with them. One of the fitters said he always felt uncomfortable being left alone in the house and worried about being suspected if something was mislaid by the owner.
To my knowledge none of them nosed about the house and we were lucky that all proved to be trustworthy. I'm not sure how you would stand with house insurance company of you were unlucky and had something go missing?

Wacky Racer

38,159 posts

247 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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My rule of thumb is:-

If you can't trust them with your keys you should not be trusting them to work on your house.

groucho

12,134 posts

246 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Wacky Racer said:
My rule of thumb is:-

If you can't trust them with your keys you should not be trusting them to work on your house.
....and a good rule of thumb, too.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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If your not sure then use a cheap cctv and always change the locks when the job is done. No disrespect intended to the vast majority of honest tradesmen.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Wacky Racer said:
My rule of thumb is:-

If you can't trust them with your keys you should not be trusting them to work on your house.
Good advice.

Personally, I will only use tradesmen who have been personally recommended to me by people I know.

Rickyy

6,618 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Go with your gut feeling.

I often get left unattended in customer's homes/businesses or given keys beforehand to let myself in. Then there are others who want to be there at all times, which is understandable.

What I would say though, is that if I were to be dishonest I'd probably do ok out of it! People leave a lot of valuable things in plain sight! Spare car keys, wads of cash, expensive jewelry, credit cards etc! Some of which they probably wouldn't notice went missing until a few weeks after I'd been!

So remove anything of value out of sight, it's not unheard of for things to go missing, but is rare IME. Although in the cases I've heard, it has been the labourer/apprentice rather than the tradesman being light fingered.


Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Get a lock that can't be copied - e.g. ABS Avocet.

Andyjc86

1,149 posts

149 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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We had this a couple of weeks ago. We had the boiler moved so moved out for a few days.

I went to the plumbers house on Sunday night, gave him the house keys, we returned on Wednesday, he posted the keys through the letterbox.

He trusted us to settle the bill when we returned, so I trusted him with the keys.

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I was regulary left keys and always went through the lady of the house's underwear draw and, if anything, the responsibility made me even more careful.
I always preferred to hand the keys back personally if possible.
WR's point is very valid.

wseed

1,514 posts

130 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I once, when young and foolish had some work done while I was away on holiday. On return I found (or rather didn't) the camera that I'd left out to take on my hold missing. The job had been done by a guy, who I'd met and trusted, but also some subcontractors when I mentioned it had walked he confessed he'd had trouble with the plasterer in the past and wouldn't be using him again. Price of the camera was knocked off the bill.

Now we meet all the people who we've had working on the house and those we've not got on with haven't been employed. We've also hired people directly rather than having teams of people who bring in others. Reason being that most trades mens reputation is worth more than whatever petty theft they could get away with. We've reused almost all of the tradesmen we've had recently and I'd have no issues leaving them with a key where required. What we do do is to set a guest code on the alarm and revert it to a personal code once they've finished work.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I know someone who did this.

Shortly afterwards, a key was used to open a back door in the middle of the night and three yobs had to be chased out of the house.

But don't let this worry you....smile

Too Late

5,094 posts

235 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Buy this

http://www.amazon.com/Yale-Security-YRD220-ZW-619-...

Change the pin once the work is complete


Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

199 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I currently have the keys for 5 customers properties, one who goes away on holiday on Saturday, including another PHer.
It does amaze me at times how trusting some people are, even to the point of leaving valuables out on show.

But we get all our work through recommendations, and being trusted is a key part to getting the job in the first place.

You have to go with your own gut feeling, a recommended tradesman has previously proven themselves to be good otherwise your friend / family wouldn't have recommended them.
Would agree with WR, if you don't trust them don't employ them. Or always be at home.

badboyburt

2,043 posts

177 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Wacky Racer

38,159 posts

247 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
I know someone who did this.

Shortly afterwards, a key was used to open a back door in the middle of the night and three yobs had to be chased out of the house.

But don't let this worry you....smile
Yeah, but that was Sheffield.....biggrin

037

1,317 posts

147 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Brill thread this!
Leave keys, brewing gear and biscuits and it will be appreciated!

037

1,317 posts

147 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Brill thread this!
Leave keys, brewing gear and biscuits and it will be appreciated!

sooperscoop

408 posts

163 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Too Late said:
Buy this

http://www.amazon.com/Yale-Security-YRD220-ZW-619-...

Change the pin once the work is complete
I love these locks, I have one on my apartment and never even take my keys with me anymore.

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Original Poster:

924 posts

106 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Interesting thoughts - seems everyone else is as anxious as me!!!

To be fair, I don't think it's practical to say - if I can't trust them with the keys, I can't trust them to work on my house.

So many times, the person who quotes/agrees a job is not the one who actually does it - so, while I may trust the business owner etc ... I will often only meet the actual worker on the day the job starts.

And in the real world, just because he looks a bit shifty or glum or shy or whatever, I don't tell him to bugger off and get his boss to send someone I like the look of better.

It's reassuring to think that people still do trust others in this way but yes, I will be hiding all valuables.