Alloy sump on S3

Alloy sump on S3

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PotlessPaul

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332 posts

240 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Has anyone fitted an alloy sump to a 2.9 engine?

I noticed last week that my engine mounts were sagging (again!) and decided to change them before the Eurotour and replace them with the stainless cup type from Burton Power, which I have done and the engine now sits well above the anti roll bar. The problem is that the steel is so thin that when I jacked the engine up it has split the sump, I could use a chemical metal type filler but am worried that it may not hold.

I can get hold of an alloy sump from a 2.9 scorpio but have'nt heard of anyone else fitting one, can it be done?

Alternatively has anyone got a spare steel sump they want to sell?

Cheers,

Paul.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Ohh, alloy sump? Is that a standard fit for a Scorpio or an aftermarket item?

Griffinr

1,017 posts

174 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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No idea whether an alloy sump will fit but being a thicker material, assuming it fitted, it would reduce the clearance over the anti-roll bar so maybe not a good idea for that reason.
If you can't find a steel replacement the steel sump should be easily repairable for a competent welder, provided its not too corroded.

PotlessPaul

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332 posts

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Friday 4th September 2015
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mk1fan said:
Ohh, alloy sump? Is that a standard fit for a Scorpio or an aftermarket item?
It's off a Cosworth.

mk1fan

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225 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Is that the 24v BOB / BOA lump?

Smay's sump is extensively 'modified' so a replacement would be nice. Although, may just drop the existing and pound it back into shape biggrin

PotlessPaul

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Friday 4th September 2015
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Don't know which type of engine its off, I'm not getting it till Monday but I'll be taking my old one with me to make sure it fits!


AutoAndy

2,265 posts

215 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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PotlessPaul said:
It's off a Cosworth.
It won't make you go any faster...unless you fit the rest of the cosworth engine... wink

PotlessPaul

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240 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Thanks for the advice Andy, but mines red therefore faster already silly

Glad you're OK by the way, I bet you know what colour adrenaline is now?!!

phillpot

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183 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Might need a bit of "tweaking" wink


PotlessPaul

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Friday 4th September 2015
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It's definitely off a 2wd car, the guy selling it seems to know his stuff, he's replaced steel sumps on granadas with these before, the only thing that I am worried about (apart from the fact that, in two weeks time,this car needs to be in Calais and the sump resembles a tea strainer!) is wether it is the same profile as mine and will not foul on the anti-roll bar.


phillpot

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183 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Have you chopped the crossmember Paul so you can change with engine in?


If it's thicker and therefore tight on the anti roll bar could the anti roll bar mountings be spacer-ed down a bit?

Edited by phillpot on Friday 4th September 21:06

mk1fan

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225 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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PotlessPaul said:
(apart from the fact that, in two weeks time,this car needs to be in Calais and the sump resembles a tea strainer!)
I wish that was all I had to do biggrin

arhTVR

226 posts

125 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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I have the alloy sump on my cossie engine and it clears fine. Same block as the 2.9 and so same engine mount arrangement. It should be a reasonably straight forward swap in my opinion.
I have a spare alloy sump if anybody wants one. . ..
Tony

arhTVR

226 posts

125 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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I have the alloy sump on my cossie engine and it clears fine. Same block as the 2.9 and so same engine mount arrangement. It should be a reasonably straight forward swap in my opinion.
I have a spare alloy sump if anybody wants one. . ..
Tony

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Oh, could be interested.

Fling me a PM or add @aol.com to my screen name.

phillpot

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183 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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mk1fan said:
Oh, could be interested.

Fling me a PM
Oh definitely interested


"Fling" (?) me a PM if Mk1 doesn't go for it please smile

PotlessPaul

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332 posts

240 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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[quote=phillpot]

Have you chopped the crossmember Paul so you can change with engine in?

I'm doing that today Mike, someone has already chopped it out once so it will look a bit of a mess!


According to the guy selling it, at the shallowest point (at the front above the anti-roll bar) it is 70mm which is about the same as the standard steel one but I will have a look at spacers when I get it home.

I have fitted the stainless steel cups to the engine mounts like you have which has given me a clearance of about 25mm between sump and ARB so should provide enough room. Have your engine mounts sagged at all since fitting the cups?


v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Good luck today Paul. With the possibility of Glen leaking in your passenger seat you don't want any more dribbles laugh

PotlessPaul

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Saturday 5th September 2015
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Oh I REALLY need you don't I?!!!!!!!!!!!! laugh

arhTVR

226 posts

125 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Stewart - YHM.
I think you can see the ARB clearance here:



Probably all you need to do is to blank off where these oil drain/breathers attach to the sump.


Here are a couple of pics of the sump itself:



Hope this helps. Tony