Discussion
Nightshade said:
Seem to be on the rise. Anyone else see this as being a future classic?
Yes......But IMO will have to be sensible miles FSH and a genuine unmolested one and preferably manual... Which will out rule alot, but find a good one and keep it...
Iv done the same with the E36 M3..!
CRA1G said:
Nightshade said:
Seem to be on the rise. Anyone else see this as being a future classic?
Yes......But IMO will have to be sensible miles FSH and a genuine unmolested one and preferably manual... Which will out rule alot, but find a good one and keep it...
Iv done the same with the E36 M3..!
thinking about putting it in a carcoon as well.
Mine is SMG and I am sure its firmed price-wise of late. Personally I would not bother with any BMW manuals (had 2) as the box is strong but ponderous and the clutches seem crap in terms of feel as well.
3 SMG's been in my family (including mine). No problems ever with any of them - many miles and some serious use on all. I did get indent springs changed on mine as a preventative during is first insp 2. Insp 2 coming round again in 2016 so might do them again (not sure if the replacements are a permanent 'fix')?
I can afford to buy E92 but can't see any point, as a weekend car / holiday machine E46 M3 SMG = perfect!
I love it every time I drive it. 95,000 miles (much of the suspension at the rear done and due second replacement RTAB at insp 2 + shockers. It feels new still - well maintained ones seem to be very solid machines.
3 SMG's been in my family (including mine). No problems ever with any of them - many miles and some serious use on all. I did get indent springs changed on mine as a preventative during is first insp 2. Insp 2 coming round again in 2016 so might do them again (not sure if the replacements are a permanent 'fix')?
I can afford to buy E92 but can't see any point, as a weekend car / holiday machine E46 M3 SMG = perfect!
I love it every time I drive it. 95,000 miles (much of the suspension at the rear done and due second replacement RTAB at insp 2 + shockers. It feels new still - well maintained ones seem to be very solid machines.
Mine is CAT D (vandalism not crashed) and missing some history so will never be worth top money but on the flip side is a manual convertible with a rareish spec so might even it out a little. To be honest I don't care if it doesn't gain much, just as long as I don't loose to much I'm happy.
Mine is a manual, completely standard, has seen 7 owners and is now on 140000 miles. I still love it and can't see me parting with it any time soon as it's so honest and basically so good at everything I ask of it.
It still goes very well and the S54 has bags of character.
I can't really see them going up in value, not yet anyway. I'm just a little surprised that people are struggling to find straight, unmolested examples. I must have been lucky.
It still goes very well and the S54 has bags of character.
I can't really see them going up in value, not yet anyway. I'm just a little surprised that people are struggling to find straight, unmolested examples. I must have been lucky.
iguana said:
Schermerhorn said:
The projected increase of E36 M3 values never really happened either as many of us expected.
I disagree, not e30 rises, but certainly the 36 has moved up min a couple of £k in past couple of yrs & see cars up at far more than that. Prices will never rise sustainably for common, old, high-volume cars.
The people who can afford to pay a lot for them won't, as they could afford an E92 or F82, and would rather have one of them because they're a nicer, newer, faster, more competent car.
The people who are too poor to buy a new one can afford to buy an older car if they are cheaper, but won't be able to afford them if the prices rise, therefore it is unsustainable as there will be no market to sell the cars to, and hence the price will decrease accordingly.
The newer versions are always slightly better than the older ones. Just buy what you can afford, at the time it's suitable to buy it. Don't worry too much about depreciation or anything else outwith your control. Just enjoy the car while you have it, and once it's time to get a new car, enjoy that for what it is too.
Cars are an expense, just like monthly shopping bills, council tax, mortgages, rent, gas and electricity bills etc. Cars will never be a reliable investment, so don't try and treat it like one. Investments are shares in companies, ETF's, funds, etc.
This ridiculous speculation on classics such as GT3's and old Ferrari's etc. has been created by the marketers who want to sell you one of these cars. This bubble will burst, just like the unsustainable housing bubble, the dot.com bubble, etc.
The people who can afford to pay a lot for them won't, as they could afford an E92 or F82, and would rather have one of them because they're a nicer, newer, faster, more competent car.
The people who are too poor to buy a new one can afford to buy an older car if they are cheaper, but won't be able to afford them if the prices rise, therefore it is unsustainable as there will be no market to sell the cars to, and hence the price will decrease accordingly.
The newer versions are always slightly better than the older ones. Just buy what you can afford, at the time it's suitable to buy it. Don't worry too much about depreciation or anything else outwith your control. Just enjoy the car while you have it, and once it's time to get a new car, enjoy that for what it is too.
Cars are an expense, just like monthly shopping bills, council tax, mortgages, rent, gas and electricity bills etc. Cars will never be a reliable investment, so don't try and treat it like one. Investments are shares in companies, ETF's, funds, etc.
This ridiculous speculation on classics such as GT3's and old Ferrari's etc. has been created by the marketers who want to sell you one of these cars. This bubble will burst, just like the unsustainable housing bubble, the dot.com bubble, etc.
M3Driver said:
Prices will never rise sustainably for common, old, high-volume cars.
The people who can afford to pay a lot for them won't, as they could afford an E92 or F82, and would rather have one of them because they're a nicer, newer, faster, more competent car.
The people who are too poor to buy a new one can afford to buy an older car if they are cheaper, but won't be able to afford them if the prices rise, therefore it is unsustainable as there will be no market to sell the cars to, and hence the price will decrease accordingly.
The newer versions are always slightly better than the older ones. Just buy what you can afford, at the time it's suitable to buy it. Don't worry too much about depreciation or anything else outwith your control. Just enjoy the car while you have it, and once it's time to get a new car, enjoy that for what it is too.
Cars are an expense, just like monthly shopping bills, council tax, mortgages, rent, gas and electricity bills etc. Cars will never be a reliable investment, so don't try and treat it like one. Investments are shares in companies, ETF's, funds, etc.
This ridiculous speculation on classics such as GT3's and old Ferrari's etc. has been created by the marketers who want to sell you one of these cars. This bubble will burst, just like the unsustainable housing bubble, the dot.com bubble, etc.
I agree with some but not all of that. People like cars for different reasons - just because someone can afford an F80 doesn't mean they'll prefer it to the E46, especially when it comes to aspects of the car that the new one doesn't have, i.e a naturally aspirated engine and hydraulic steering. Not to say that the new car isn't an excellent car, but it appeals for different reasons. I don't think we'll see the ridiculous speculation seen on Ferraris or air cooled Porsches though (CSL aside) because they're pretty common, but I think good examples will hold their value. People with the means who just want a fast day to day car will buy an F80The people who can afford to pay a lot for them won't, as they could afford an E92 or F82, and would rather have one of them because they're a nicer, newer, faster, more competent car.
The people who are too poor to buy a new one can afford to buy an older car if they are cheaper, but won't be able to afford them if the prices rise, therefore it is unsustainable as there will be no market to sell the cars to, and hence the price will decrease accordingly.
The newer versions are always slightly better than the older ones. Just buy what you can afford, at the time it's suitable to buy it. Don't worry too much about depreciation or anything else outwith your control. Just enjoy the car while you have it, and once it's time to get a new car, enjoy that for what it is too.
Cars are an expense, just like monthly shopping bills, council tax, mortgages, rent, gas and electricity bills etc. Cars will never be a reliable investment, so don't try and treat it like one. Investments are shares in companies, ETF's, funds, etc.
This ridiculous speculation on classics such as GT3's and old Ferrari's etc. has been created by the marketers who want to sell you one of these cars. This bubble will burst, just like the unsustainable housing bubble, the dot.com bubble, etc.
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