Opinions and advice welcome...
Discussion
Afternoon all, I find myself with some free time whilst sat on the balcony on holiday and I'm hoping you can offer some different opinions to a minor niggle with my chim that I can't seem to figure out.
It's pulling to the left slightly, at first I put it down to crap suspension, crap set up and crap tyres.
However now it has new shocks and springs all round, new track rod ends and steering arms, it's been properly set up at Neil garners and has new toyos all round and it still wanders to the left slightly.
The wheels are being refurbed this week so when I have the tyres refitted I'm going to try them on the opposite sides and see if that affects it.
I guess it could be chassis related, but how about ball joints and things like that, can they cause a pull?
Like I said any different opinions are welcome, it's only a minor thing really but if I can fix it then it's all the better for it.
Thanks for reading,
Russell.
It's pulling to the left slightly, at first I put it down to crap suspension, crap set up and crap tyres.
However now it has new shocks and springs all round, new track rod ends and steering arms, it's been properly set up at Neil garners and has new toyos all round and it still wanders to the left slightly.
The wheels are being refurbed this week so when I have the tyres refitted I'm going to try them on the opposite sides and see if that affects it.
I guess it could be chassis related, but how about ball joints and things like that, can they cause a pull?
Like I said any different opinions are welcome, it's only a minor thing really but if I can fix it then it's all the better for it.
Thanks for reading,
Russell.
Funnily enough I've done the driving on the wrong side twice already in the crapbox rental I've gotnand we've only been here two days!
Back on topic, it's too consistent to be road camber I feel, what does everyone else's cars do? It's been 6 years since I drove different tvrs on a daily basis so I can't remember.
Back on topic, it's too consistent to be road camber I feel, what does everyone else's cars do? It's been 6 years since I drove different tvrs on a daily basis so I can't remember.
When I had my alignment done the pro,s insisted I move the left front wheel further forward than the right. This was done by removing the 8mm thick caster shim (which was in front of the top ball joint) and making three more the same shape 1 x 4mm thick and two @ 2mm thick. I think they ended up putting 6mm (4+2) in front of the ball joint and 2mm behind. They said they try and make all road going cars have the l/f wheel further forward than the right to counter this pulling left.
Of corse it has ended up with less caster on that side but seems to drive well. If you were racing the car I imagine you would want everything even from side to side though ?
Of corse it has ended up with less caster on that side but seems to drive well. If you were racing the car I imagine you would want everything even from side to side though ?
N7GTX said:
Binding front brakes like a sticky caliper?
Rear brakes binding a bit?
Handbrake evenly set up and not too tight?
Diff in good condition?
Swapping wheels side to side a good idea.
Test the car on a flat car park like B&Q with no camber.
Go backwards, is it the same?
I'll test the brakes on my return, any ideas how I can test the diff? It doesn't whine or clunk. Rear brakes binding a bit?
Handbrake evenly set up and not too tight?
Diff in good condition?
Swapping wheels side to side a good idea.
Test the car on a flat car park like B&Q with no camber.
Go backwards, is it the same?
My Golf pulled to the left when I bought it, but I was sure I could sort it.. had a full service done on it, tracking done, suspension all checked over and no worn bushes, bent rods, or anything apparently out of wack, but it still pulled to the left. Had a full geo done, front camber was out, had it all put right.. it still pulled to the left. Rear tyres where badly worn, had two new ones put on, still pulled to the left although not as severe as before the full geo.
Last act of desperation, swapped the front wheels for the backs, thereby putting the new tyres on the front, and guess what? Drove like it was on rails, straight as a dye...
Appreciate you can't swap fronts for rears if you're running the standard set-up, but in my case it was (I believe) cheap/oddly worn tyres on the front that was causing the car to pull to the left.. The transformation in the car and pleasure in driving something that wasn't constantly veering towards the kerb was immense...
Last act of desperation, swapped the front wheels for the backs, thereby putting the new tyres on the front, and guess what? Drove like it was on rails, straight as a dye...
Appreciate you can't swap fronts for rears if you're running the standard set-up, but in my case it was (I believe) cheap/oddly worn tyres on the front that was causing the car to pull to the left.. The transformation in the car and pleasure in driving something that wasn't constantly veering towards the kerb was immense...
) close to someone on here who could pop their wheels onto your car to see if it solves or changes it.Chilliwhizz I'm hoping when I get the tyres put back on the opposite sides to what they were then it'll show something, they are Toyos and all new a few months back so it shouldn't be crap/mismatched tread issue.
Qbee, I mate has just bought the same car as me and lives a mile down the road and works at the same dealerships me so swapping is definitely a possibility. Good idea and thanks for the offer.
Would you do all 4 or just fronts?
Qbee, I mate has just bought the same car as me and lives a mile down the road and works at the same dealerships me so swapping is definitely a possibility. Good idea and thanks for the offer.
Would you do all 4 or just fronts?
shake n bake said:
Chilliwhizz I'm hoping when I get the tyres put back on the opposite sides to what they were then it'll show something, they are Toyos and all new a few months back so it shouldn't be crap/mismatched tread issue.
Qbee, I mate has just bought the same car as me and lives a mile down the road and works at the same dealerships me so swapping is definitely a possibility. Good idea and thanks for the offer.
Would you do all 4 or just fronts?
I would start with just the fronts.....Qbee, I mate has just bought the same car as me and lives a mile down the road and works at the same dealerships me so swapping is definitely a possibility. Good idea and thanks for the offer.
Would you do all 4 or just fronts?
.....and if that doesn't solve it, try all four.
Assuming of course that his doesn't do the same thing.
Some tyres do pull some cars off line, but Toyos are a popular choice with Chimaeras, so i wouldn't expect that to be a problem. I have never had any, so wouldn't know.
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