RE: Shed Of The Week: Volkswagen Golf GTI

RE: Shed Of The Week: Volkswagen Golf GTI

Friday 2nd October 2015

Shed Of The Week: Volkswagen Golf GTI

How a sub-grand price makes even the unloved GTI look rather lovely



You've got to feel a bit sorry for Volkswagen. There was going to be a slightly dodgy joke here about the winds of despair whistling around a lady's lower area, but it turns out VAG hasn't been VAG for the last 20 years so we won't do that one. Thing is though, behind all the me-too shouting about cheating, you can't argue with fact that VW makes good cars. And has done so for quite a while.

Shed may face an uphil struggle with this one
Shed may face an uphil struggle with this one
Good cars like this 115hp Mk3 Golf GTI.

What? Has Shed gone mad? Everyone knows Mk3 Golfs are slow, blobby and generally rubbish. But forget it's a GTI for a minute (easy enough in this case) and look at it objectively as just a Golf. At a very basic level, under £1K for a very clean and serviceable German hatch with a full MoT, low miles, new clutch and brakes and refurbed BBS wheels (worth a few bob on their own) seems like good value.

Now let's look a little further into it. Good Mk1s have already gone nuclear and MK2 prices are on the up, so if you believe in the inevitability of evolution and are looking to minimise your depreciation, there's a strong argument to be made for a nice Mk3 Golf GTI. Admittedly, you might prefer a three-door with 150hp rather than our five-door 115hp one, but do remember we are in Shedland here. And remember also the limitless aftermarket potential for improvement.

115hp means plenty of time to admire cleanliness
115hp means plenty of time to admire cleanliness
The beauty of this one is that it hasn't been 'improved'. That means you can continue down the road of maintaining its originality or do what everybody else does and take the left fork to Forkupsville. Worst case scenario is you've still got a clean and serviceable German hatch that won't lose much, if any, of its value during your stewardship.

Shed's bloodshot eyes have never been quite the same since he found himself watching A-bomb tests on a Pacific island, but he's getting a feeling from the pics that the panels don't quite match. It's like one of those 'what do you see here?' things on the World Wide Web.

One colour he isn't seeing is brown, which in the context of Mk 3 sills, hatches, filler caps and all four wheelarches is a good thing. You'll want to check the subframes and floors for rot too. Luckily these areas are all easy to examine.

Refurbed BBSs are a tempting finishing touch
Refurbed BBSs are a tempting finishing touch
Those who have tried both Mk2s and 3s will tend to come down on the side of the lighter 2 but a rust-free Mk3 will be pretty resilient. Shed owned a basic 1.9 diesel a few years back which he generously part-ex'd to a gardener in exchange for some tidying work on Shed's huge and profoundly illegal leylandii hedge. Within a week it had been T-boned by a minicab, writing it off. The Golf, that is. Shed shed a tear that day.

Mk3s are easy to drive and easy to work on and most parts can be cheaply sourced with a bit of effort. The eight-valve motors may not have the horsepower of the 16-valvers but they are good real-world units that will get you about the place in a fuss-free manner. The 3's Digifant engine management system has a bit of a bad rep, but it does give you diagnostability. A Golf of this vintage will often respond to the 'Italian tune-up', ie. thramping the bejesus out of it to burn unwanted deposits off the pistons, valves and plugs.

Poor idling and engine spluttering is very common but could be something as simple as a faulty engine coolant temperature sensor. Also check hoses, earths, injectors, throttle bodies, the idle stabiliser valve and the fuel filter. Electric windows break, but leaning your elbow on the door frame is a poor show anyway.

Ah, our old friend the sensor. Never mind VW getting slaughtered for their fiddling, whoever invented the sensor should be nailed face-on to a wall and introduced to the pointy end of a lambda probe.

Here's the ad.


Finished in Satin Silver with black interior.
Spec Includes.
Air conditioning, 16" BBS Split rims (freshly furbished with powder coated centers and polished rims and fitted with 4 Hankook tyres), Front and rear electric windows, ABS, Power steering, Sony CD player with USB interface, Front fog lights, Folding rear seats, Electric door mirrors, On-board computer to list just a few features of this classic GTi.
A well looked after example with many new parts, including recently replaced clutch and brakes all round. Complete with plenty of Service History and many invoices for parts replaced by the previous enthusiast owner.
Increasingly hard to find in this condition with very few examples left.
Price includes 12 months MOT and Hpi certificate.
All major credit cards accepted + part exchange welcome. We are Open 7 days a week in a purpose built indoor showroom so you can come and view our cars no matter what the weather is doing. Viewings by appointment.








Author
Discussion

The Don of Croy

Original Poster:

5,993 posts

159 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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No thanks, I'll pass.

Will this model ever be 'coveted'? Don't think so...

SirSquidalot

4,041 posts

165 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Ah the car that began the rotting of the GTI badge!

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Clean and genuine example, but these MK3s do nothing for me.

kellyt

158 posts

119 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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X2. Boring thing, not much go about it. And after that lovely Saab too....

Jam12321

164 posts

110 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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A friend of mine had one of these for a few years, it was a Colour concept 8V GTI. Felt like a tank on the road but had a habit of munching gearboxes. Reverse gear each time and after the first GBox was done he went through two more second hand ones as well.

Sold it and moved on and a recently another mate bought one and guess what? the reverse gear whines loudly!


rallycross

12,787 posts

237 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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These late model mk3 Gti specced with aircon were actually a nice car to drive and will make a pleasant 5 door family hatch for someone on a budget, sadly there was nothing much Gti about them except the badge!

Edited by rallycross on Friday 2nd October 10:29

Maracus

4,234 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I ran one of these as a shed about 8 years ago. Bought it at 125k for £1500 and sold it 2 years later with 150k on for £1000.

Yes it was slow, the doors went rusty, the driver's seat went threadbare and the aircon failed, but it easily hit 40mpg+ and only once went wrong. The throttle body needed a clean, a 30 minute job.

There are better cars out there, and in no way should it have had a GTI badge, but I liked it hehe

Icehanger

394 posts

222 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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didn't the Mk3 only get badged Gti in the uk? elsewhere in Europe it was called the 2.0...so is it a true Gtiboxedin

Maracus

4,234 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Icehanger said:
didn't the Mk3 only get badged Gti in the uk? elsewhere in Europe it was called the 2.0...so is it a true Gtiboxedin
Pretty sure sure it was badged as 2.0 Sport elsewhere, which is also very optomistic.


aberdeeneuan

1,344 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I had one of these when I lived in less than nice part of Edinburgh where MK IIs had a habit of wandering off overnight. Don't think of it as a GTI though.

Lambda probe went. Drivers electric window went (which was a problem trying to get into car parks and, more importantly, the toll on the Forth Road Bridge which I did every day!). It got keyed spectacularly across the bonnet overnight. Still have a soft spot for it though. It looked good (dark green 3 door), drove OK, had a decent stereo, was cheap to insure and run.

Would't have one now though.

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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If you are going to venture in the "limitless aftermarket" I'd suggest saving that money and getting a better car in the first place.

JakeT

5,425 posts

120 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I never enjoyed Golf GTi ownership that much... Mine always had the feeling that something expensive was about to break... Then the steering rack started leaking... So it went.

WFL

64 posts

129 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I bought a third gen 16v earlier on in the year for half a bag. A different engine to this, yes, but I can vouch for MK3s as a very good (and very cheap) buy.

I use it every day (replacing a MK2 GTi 8V) and it hasn't let me down yet. It's much more refined on the motorway and feels more solid. It's also quicker and although a different steer still a great one.

Top shedding.

Lotusgone

1,179 posts

127 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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They still look like good solid cars - if you can spend a bit more, go for the VR6, the one I had was terrific with a great engine note.

rob.e

2,861 posts

278 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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WFL said:
I bought a third gen 16v earlier on in the year for half a bag. A different engine to this, yes, but I can vouch for MK3s as a very good (and very cheap) buy.

I use it every day (replacing a MK2 GTi 8V) and it hasn't let me down yet. It's much more refined on the motorway and feels more solid. It's also quicker and although a different steer still a great one.

Top shedding.
+1


all the negative comments above miss the point - yes it was a step back handling-wise vs a mk2 but as a shed it's a great choice, well built and solid. 115bhp isn't much but for the money that car looks great - yes a 16v or vr6 is quicker but i doubt you'd find one for this money.

lufbramatt

5,342 posts

134 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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They're not much different really in the handling department to a mk2, considering most of the suspension components are identical and major parts like subframes can all be swapped over. Maybe a bit softer but that's easily remedied with better springs and shocks.

The 16v is sooo much better though, the wheezy 8v engine just runs out of puff at about 4k rpm, whereas the 16v keeps pulling all the way to the limiter, and the revised "plus axle" (5 stud wheels) suspension geometry with more front castor and a better scrub radius makes them feel much more planted. Actually looks like this late 8v may have the better suspension setup.

Don't get the comment about the Digifant 3 EMS, in reality there's only a couple of sensors that will stop the engine running (coolant temp and crank sensor), if they work and the wiring is ok the engines run great.

Good luck finding one that isn't rotten though.

Edited by lufbramatt on Friday 2nd October 10:03

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I'd rather have a Rover 214 16v of the same age, and spend the £650 saved on several head gaskets.

BlimeyCharlie

902 posts

142 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Cotic said:
I'd rather have a Rover 214 16v of the same age, and spend the £650 saved on several head gaskets.
A classic example of a 'false economy' if ever there was one...
Granted, this 'GTI' does not really do much for me, but it'll probably chug around reliably every day, certainly not needing a head gasket every moon cycle.

dbdb

4,324 posts

173 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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The wonder of the Golf escapes me. It looks to be in decent condition though and as such could be a practical run around. As a car it would never interest me more than that - but then no Golf would so I'm not specifically criticising this one.

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Are you serious, that stty nasty boring Saab!!!
The mk3 was the best looking one. Mk2 Golf never looked all that imo. Mk1 looks were ok, loved the convertible. Hated the mk4, styling was st, it was though they didn't evolve much from the mk3; they even had to put out adverts saying it was an all new car and about 4000 new parts or something compared to the mk3 as the general public kept thinking it was the same.
The mk5 however is the best styled imo and excellent chassis; top all rounder.

kellyt said:
X2. Boring thing, not much go about it. And after that lovely Saab too....