How have I ended up as a project manager?

How have I ended up as a project manager?

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Ollie123

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121 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I’m 28 and have been with a software company since leaving university, I have gone from a support role to a technical role and now I am a project manager.

Now I’ve been managing smaller projects for over a year and yes I have mostly enjoyed it but for some reason my employer has seen fit to hand me one of the company’s largest ever contracts at £1.1 million (estimate 2 year duration) and I have no idea why.

I’ve been warned by our most senior PM that I am going to have to eat sleep and breathe this project, and work evenings and weekends.

Obviously I’m flattered and I’m going to give it my best shot but at the same time I am not sure if it is the road I want to do go down.

I enjoyed my previous technical role because it was decent pay, I got told what to do, I did it and then I went home on the dot at 5pm. Minimal stress and a good work life balance.

With the project management I have to engage my brain a bit more, step outside my comfort zone, and generally pester people into doing the job they are assigned to, and then generally pester them some more when they negate to tell me they've done it.

That latter point is more my main grievance as although my communication skills are excellent I dislike managing people especially petulant colleagues, I'm also a bit of an introvert which doesn't help.

Anyway, I'm just going to man up about that last bit, I was just looking for some advice or stories from other PM’s.

bitchstewie

51,104 posts

210 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Ollie123 said:
I enjoyed my previous technical role because it was decent pay, I got told what to do, I did it and then I went home on the dot at 5pm. Minimal stress and a good work life balance.
I guess everyone is different but that's my idea of hell.

Take the positives - they clearly think you're capable of doing it.

SirBlade

544 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Or they think you meet their minimum requirements and they do not want to pay extra.

Stick to what you have, a good work life balance with manageable stress.

Eat, breath, sleep the project with loads of unpaid over time!?

Tell them to take a hike.

Without being deliberately offensive, they see you as a capable guy, but a bit of a mug who will "step outside of the box-comfort zone" and work like a dog for nothing.

Do not be conned by the "career enhancer" carrot

Edited by SirBlade on Sunday 4th October 12:20

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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It's typically the way to climb the career ladder and make more money. However, if you're more hands-on, you may actually prefer to not climb the ladder and make more money - it might not be better for your wallet but it will be better for your health.

Ollie123

Original Poster:

121 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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SirBlade said:
Or they think you meet their minimum requirements and they do not want to pay extra.

Stick to what you have, a good work life balance with manageable stress.

Eat, breath, sleep the project with loads of unpaid over time!?

Tell them to take a hike.

Without being deliberately offensive, they see you as a capable guy, but a bit of a mug who will "step outside of the box-comfort zone" and work like a dog for nothing.

Do not be conned by the "career enhancer" carrot
Ha, why I do thank you for the honest feedback.

What is funny though is that I am infamous in our office for not doing unpaid overtime, unless it really is mission critical (hardly ever) then I just get up and go the moment the clock strikes 5.

Our MD said what I give to the company (excellent work and consistent dependable results) I take away (by not doing any overtime).

Anyways, salaries are reviewed next month but do not come into effect until the new year. I'll put on a keen face and see what happens.

bitchstewie

51,104 posts

210 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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If it really is one of the company's largest ever contracts they presumably wouldn't risk it by handing it someone they thought would screw it up.

The work life balance part is something that of course comes down to personal preference, but I'd take the fact they want you to do it as a complement - if you want to be the sort who just gets told what to do and then fk off at 5pm then fair enough I guess.

Ollie123

Original Poster:

121 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Hoofy said:
It's typically the way to climb the career ladder and make more money. However, if you're more hands-on, you may actually prefer to not climb the ladder and make more money - it might not be better for your wallet but it will be better for your health.
I had the usual post graduate enthusiasm of wanting to do well, climb the ladder and earn more money.

But now at 28 I just feel jaded about the whole thing. Maybe I have become a bit of a bum.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Ollie123 said:
Hoofy said:
It's typically the way to climb the career ladder and make more money. However, if you're more hands-on, you may actually prefer to not climb the ladder and make more money - it might not be better for your wallet but it will be better for your health.
I had the usual post graduate enthusiasm of wanting to do well, climb the ladder and earn more money.

But now at 28 I just feel jaded about the whole thing. Maybe I have become a bit of a bum.
Your age is one issue I'd be concerned with - simply because at that age you should still be full of enthusiasm, energy and a desire for greatness, willing to work your arse off to rake in as much cash as possible.

If you lack enthusiasm now, wait until you're over 40. You're gonna be truly hating working. And you won't have much money either. Sure, money doesn't bring happiness but it brings options. Like options to live comfortably without working your arse off in your 40s because you've lost enthusiasm for your career!

Right now, I'm doing something I love; the money isn't great but I can afford to choose to do what I want (money buys options). People often say to me that it sounds like I've retired simply because I don't have to chase money any more.

TSCfree

1,681 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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What's your overall goal? Think about that then work backwards. Happiness, money, status, decent retirement, V8, Whatever....

Plan the route, suck it up or be content.

Ollie123

Original Poster:

121 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I’m glad I’ve posted made this thread because during the course of today I’ve done some thinking. I was told to start work on this new project this weekend and I haven’t, what does that tell you? wink

Hoofy said:
Ollie123 said:
Hoofy said:
It's typically the way to climb the career ladder and make more money. However, if you're more hands-on, you may actually prefer to not climb the ladder and make more money - it might not be better for your wallet but it will be better for your health.
I had the usual post graduate enthusiasm of wanting to do well, climb the ladder and earn more money.

But now at 28 I just feel jaded about the whole thing. Maybe I have become a bit of a bum.
Your age is one issue I'd be concerned with - simply because at that age you should still be full of enthusiasm, energy and a desire for greatness, willing to work your arse off to rake in as much cash as possible.

If you lack enthusiasm now, wait until you're over 40. You're gonna be truly hating working. And you won't have much money either. Sure, money doesn't bring happiness but it brings options. Like options to live comfortably without working your arse off in your 40s because you've lost enthusiasm for your career!

Right now, I'm doing something I love; the money isn't great but I can afford to choose to do what I want (money buys options). People often say to me that it sounds like I've retired simply because I don't have to chase money any more.
Thank you for your point of view, however I completely disagree.

In previous years I have worked so hard and to some degree alienated myself from friends and family because I was always working.

The result is I'm now in a strong financial position but I’ve learnt that possessions are immaterial, life is for living and not working more than 35 hours a week.

Monkeylegend

26,326 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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So what do you plan to say to your boss tomorrow? It could get interesting if you turn the project down, maybe time to move on?

I went through a similar situation years ago and the one thing you cannot get back is lost time with family. That is one of my biggest regrets in life. As long as you are ok financially they should be your priority in my view.

Good luck anyway.

edc

9,234 posts

251 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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What are you scared of? You haven't even started the project yet and got first hand experience of it or the difficulty/complexity etc of the role and it's perceived step up in level.

dave123456

1,854 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Ollie123 said:
In previous years I have worked so hard and to some degree alienated myself from friends and family because I was always working.
Ollie123 said:
What is funny though is that I am infamous in our office for not doing unpaid overtime, unless it really is mission critical (hardly ever) then I just get up and go the moment the clock strikes 5.
??

Ollie123

Original Poster:

121 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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dave123456 said:
Ollie123 said:
In previous years I have worked so hard and to some degree alienated myself from friends and family because I was always working.
Ollie123 said:
What is funny though is that I am infamous in our office for not doing unpaid overtime, unless it really is mission critical (hardly ever) then I just get up and go the moment the clock strikes 5.
??
Like I said, in previous years.

dave123456

1,854 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Ollie123 said:
dave123456 said:
Ollie123 said:
In previous years I have worked so hard and to some degree alienated myself from friends and family because I was always working.
Ollie123 said:
What is funny though is that I am infamous in our office for not doing unpaid overtime, unless it really is mission critical (hardly ever) then I just get up and go the moment the clock strikes 5.
??
Like I said, in previous years.
it's probably an attempt to reignite that work ethic.

slow_poke

1,855 posts

234 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Ollie123 said:
Our MD said what I give to the company (excellent work and consistent dependable results)
Good. That's what you're paid for, that's what you're delivering. Sounds even like you're exceeding expectations.

Ollie123 said:
I take away (by not doing any overtime).
No. fk that. Tell him to fk right off with that comment. He isn't paying you for that extra, you don't want any part of that extra, you're already delivering on your commitment to him and his business. fk that mealy-mouthed passive-aggressive manipulative st.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Ollie123 said:
I’m glad I’ve posted made this thread because during the course of today I’ve done some thinking. I was told to start work on this new project this weekend and I haven’t, what does that tell you? wink

Hoofy said:
Ollie123 said:
Hoofy said:
It's typically the way to climb the career ladder and make more money. However, if you're more hands-on, you may actually prefer to not climb the ladder and make more money - it might not be better for your wallet but it will be better for your health.
I had the usual post graduate enthusiasm of wanting to do well, climb the ladder and earn more money.

But now at 28 I just feel jaded about the whole thing. Maybe I have become a bit of a bum.
Your age is one issue I'd be concerned with - simply because at that age you should still be full of enthusiasm, energy and a desire for greatness, willing to work your arse off to rake in as much cash as possible.

If you lack enthusiasm now, wait until you're over 40. You're gonna be truly hating working. And you won't have much money either. Sure, money doesn't bring happiness but it brings options. Like options to live comfortably without working your arse off in your 40s because you've lost enthusiasm for your career!

Right now, I'm doing something I love; the money isn't great but I can afford to choose to do what I want (money buys options). People often say to me that it sounds like I've retired simply because I don't have to chase money any more.
Thank you for your point of view, however I completely disagree.

In previous years I have worked so hard and to some degree alienated myself from friends and family because I was always working.

The result is I'm now in a strong financial position but I’ve learnt that possessions are immaterial, life is for living and not working more than 35 hours a week.
My point still stands. How strong a position are you in? Could you really take a pay cut tomorrow? Mortgage paid off?