Wheel alignment issue - print out attached
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Still not happy with my wheel alignment after two goes recently
Issues are the steering wheel isn't at 12 o'clock when going straight and veers to the right and the second issues is hard to explain but doesn't seem to handle as positive. I'm not technically minded to explain but the feel isn't like it was before, seems slower in turn in and then not as direct mid way through a turn
Attached original setup:
Current setup:
I'm no expert but should going to a decent alignment place and they replicate the readings from original should it be as simple as that?
Issues are the steering wheel isn't at 12 o'clock when going straight and veers to the right and the second issues is hard to explain but doesn't seem to handle as positive. I'm not technically minded to explain but the feel isn't like it was before, seems slower in turn in and then not as direct mid way through a turn
Attached original setup:
Current setup:
I'm no expert but should going to a decent alignment place and they replicate the readings from original should it be as simple as that?
Both your before and after measurements were those of a car I'd expect to drive normally in geometry terms.
The wheel not sitting straight will not be captured by the geometry reading as the equipment doesn't look at steering wheel angle.
The wheel being offset and the pull under braking could be indicative of braking system problems I.e a binding caliper or a separate suspension issue.
The wheel not sitting straight will not be captured by the geometry reading as the equipment doesn't look at steering wheel angle.
The wheel being offset and the pull under braking could be indicative of braking system problems I.e a binding caliper or a separate suspension issue.
The setting is geared as fast road setup with lowering springs and camber bolts up front and camber arms rear
Before it drove good, albeit the front tyre wore out on inner edge one side
I replaced the front and rotated them to the rear so the front has the old rears on which are in okay condition, nothing massive in wear to throw off anything I think
I had new top mounts done during the before and after
So not sure if its suspension related, tyres I don't think so or actual alignment?
Before it drove good, albeit the front tyre wore out on inner edge one side
I replaced the front and rotated them to the rear so the front has the old rears on which are in okay condition, nothing massive in wear to throw off anything I think
I had new top mounts done during the before and after
So not sure if its suspension related, tyres I don't think so or actual alignment?
I'm no alignment expert, however have had both my MX5s aligned to a fast road setup in the past.
From your befores/afters to me it seems like they have significantly reduced front toe, and I believe this will make your car require more work at the wheel to turn in, as the turn in will be less aggressive. This is typical of fast road setups as it gives your car more inherent stability as it is less aggressive on turn-in and less likely that you will have hairy moments with the rear stepping out. But you will be going faster.
When you swap from an aggressive setup to a less aggressive 'fast road' setup it does take a while to readjust.
From your befores/afters to me it seems like they have significantly reduced front toe, and I believe this will make your car require more work at the wheel to turn in, as the turn in will be less aggressive. This is typical of fast road setups as it gives your car more inherent stability as it is less aggressive on turn-in and less likely that you will have hairy moments with the rear stepping out. But you will be going faster.
When you swap from an aggressive setup to a less aggressive 'fast road' setup it does take a while to readjust.
hornetrider said:
I'm no alignment expert, however have had both my MX5s aligned to a fast road setup in the past.
From your befores/afters to me it seems like they have significantly reduced front toe, and I believe this will make your car require more work at the wheel to turn in, as the turn in will be less aggressive. This is typical of fast road setups as it gives your car more inherent stability as it is less aggressive on turn-in and less likely that you will have hairy moments with the rear stepping out. But you will be going faster.
When you swap from an aggressive setup to a less aggressive 'fast road' setup it does take a while to readjust.
Front toe has gone from parallel to 0.2mm total toe in, this is an increase in toe not a decrease, and could hardly be described as significant.From your befores/afters to me it seems like they have significantly reduced front toe, and I believe this will make your car require more work at the wheel to turn in, as the turn in will be less aggressive. This is typical of fast road setups as it gives your car more inherent stability as it is less aggressive on turn-in and less likely that you will have hairy moments with the rear stepping out. But you will be going faster.
When you swap from an aggressive setup to a less aggressive 'fast road' setup it does take a while to readjust.
I don't believe in swapping tyres front to back and around in circles on a performance based car, the tyre will wear differently on each corner, more so if you you've got camber kits and other non standard parts fitted.
What brand of tyre did you have fitted for the new tyres you had fitted?
Also new pads and discs won't fix a binding caliper, go jack up each corner and rotate the wheel, if it doesn't move freely then that's part of the problem.
What brand of tyre did you have fitted for the new tyres you had fitted?
Also new pads and discs won't fix a binding caliper, go jack up each corner and rotate the wheel, if it doesn't move freely then that's part of the problem.
I'll ask the garage to check for movement of wheels when up in the air
The second pic is the before but for rears
I did notice the settings on rear are quite a bit different, to what it suppose to translate to I'm not sure
Tyres are goodyear eagle f1 all round, but point taken. Maybe the front needs fresh
The second pic is the before but for rears
I did notice the settings on rear are quite a bit different, to what it suppose to translate to I'm not sure
Tyres are goodyear eagle f1 all round, but point taken. Maybe the front needs fresh
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