Poll to release vital technical info keep the Vulcan flying

Poll to release vital technical info keep the Vulcan flying

Author
Discussion

VEX

Original Poster:

5,256 posts

245 months

Monday 5th October 2015
quotequote all
I just found and signed the petition, "Reverse your decision not to release vital information and documentation, and establish working agreements to enable other willing parties to take over as the technical authorities on Vulcan XH558/G-VLCN."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Vex.



Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/p/reverse-your-decision-not-...

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
The link I tried was dead. Nevertheless, do you really think the issue is one of being unwilling, rather than one of being unable?

ecsrobin

17,023 posts

164 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
It's had its moment let another aircraft take to the podium.

Riley Blue

20,915 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Mave said:
Nevertheless, do you really think the issue is one of being unwilling, rather than one of being unable?
From what has been written, yes.

Eric Mc

121,784 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Yet another hopeless petition about getting an aeroplane into the air.

I'm starting a petition to have hydrogen filled Zeppelins back flying.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

246 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
Yet another hopeless petition about getting an aeroplane into the air.

I'm starting a petition to have hydrogen filled Zeppelins back flying.
Not as far away as you think:
http://www.hybridairvehicles.com/
FFG

JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
Yet another hopeless petition about getting an aeroplane into the air.

I'm starting a petition to have hydrogen filled Zeppelins back flying.
I'll sign that and will donate a fire extinguisher (black one)

Eric Mc

121,784 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
The new version will be much safer anyway as it won't have a Smoking Room (yes - the original Zeppelins did indeed feature a Smoking Room).

Richie Slow

7,499 posts

163 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
Yet another hopeless petition about getting an aeroplane into the air.

I'm starting a petition to have hydrogen filled Zeppelins back flying.
I agree with Eric on this. It was fun to see the vulcan still flying for a bit longer, but the whole scenario was perhaps aptly described by another poster as a 'gravy train'. I can't disagree with that. And besides, all good things come to an end. It's a shame that future generations won't see it fly but they won't see HP42s flying out of Croydon either.

Onwards and upwards, as they say biggrin

hman

7,487 posts

193 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Why not a TSR 2?

Eric Mc

121,784 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Why not indeed. It is just as likely.

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Riley Blue said:
Mave said:
Nevertheless, do you really think the issue is one of being unwilling, rather than one of being unable?
From what has been written, yes.
How do you think an organisation can usefully pass over technical authority for parts which have exceeded their released life?

Kitchski

6,514 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
ecsrobin said:
It's had its moment let another aircraft take to the podium.
Yeah, but nothing will take the podium, will it? Certainly nothing like the Vulcan. Old warbirds, sure, and I'd love to see a Mozzy or huge old WW2 bomber up there to an extent, but aircraft that are on the Vulcan's level? Lightning? Victor? Buc? Concorde even?! None of them are ever going to fly again, at least not in the UK in the case of the Lightning.

I do agree that it's had it's moment, and I think people are just struggling to let go. If it ran forever, the donations would probably dry up as people would take it for granted more. But on the flipside, I don't think there's anything that can match it for pulling power. People who aren't even into planes know what the Vulcan is. That's a real achievement, and the fact they even got it back up in the skies again is massive, but I don't think it'll ever happen again sadly.

As for the reasons it won't fly again, and the complete decision making behind it, I don't think we'll ever know the whole story.

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
hman said:
Why not a TSR 2?
as the one/two remaining 'complete' aircraft have been static exhibits for 40 + years ... never mind the fact their olympus engines are a type specific to the TSR" , being neither a standard 200/ 300 series nor a 593 ...

Smollet

10,465 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
Why not indeed. It is just as likely.
Bristol Brabazon would be my choice or maybe the Gloster Javelin. At least the later looks a bit like a Vulcan. laugh

ecsrobin

17,023 posts

164 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Richie Slow said:
Eric Mc said:
Yet another hopeless petition about getting an aeroplane into the air.

I'm starting a petition to have hydrogen filled Zeppelins back flying.
I agree with Eric on this. It was fun to see the vulcan still flying for a bit longer, but the whole scenario was perhaps aptly described by another poster as a 'gravy train'. I can't disagree with that. And besides, all good things come to an end. It's a shame that future generations won't see it fly but they won't see HP42s flying out of Croydon either.

Onwards and upwards, as they say biggrin
Certainly a gravy train.

hman

7,487 posts

193 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
mph1977 said:
hman said:
Why not a TSR 2?
as the one/two remaining 'complete' aircraft have been static exhibits for 40 + years ... never mind the fact their olympus engines are a type specific to the TSR" , being neither a standard 200/ 300 series nor a 593 ...
rhetorical question.

Scotty2

1,265 posts

265 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
Someone mention Zeppelins...

I an most definately up for that!

(No-one remembers the 14 transatlantic crossings The Hindenburg made without inciden in 1936. Only the first crossing of 1937. Huh. You burn one ship and...)

Eric Mc

121,784 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
It wasn't just one though. The Hindenburg accident was the last in a long line of airship accidents. As they were built in the 1920s and 30s they were structurally very weak and prone to serious breakages. Most rigid airships were lost due to structural breakups. Even the Hindenburg accident was almost definitely started by some of the internal tensioning wires snapping and creating friction sparks as they snapped.

williamp

19,216 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
quotequote all
The problem with airships is that these days their pilots look like this:



Anyway, my vote is for the Fairey Rotordyne project to be updated and rolled out over every European capital city (and Corby). How else can you travel from, say the centre of London to the centre of Paris or Brussels??