Renault Kadjar 1.5dci EDC - Am I asking for trouble?
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More of a WTF car than a 'what car'. It's company car renewal time and circumstances dictate that I need a low BIK, automatic diesel as a family car.
Autos generally cost a bit as a company car as they're usually a bit less economical and a little bit more expensive - so choices are slim.
So this Renault pops up. It uses the 1.5dci which is an economical engine and it's mated to the EDC (Renault's version of VWs DSG dual clutch gearbox) which means the CO2 is pretty much the same as the manual. On top of that £25k gets you a top of the range model which looks okay.
My hesitation is out of prejudice though. I've had solely VWs till now and thought all french cars were assembled in a somewhat 'relaxed' fashion with electical and mechanical borkage a matter of when and not if.
So PH massive I'd appreciate your thoughts and experience. Good idea or madness? Any experience of Renault's EDC?
Thanks!
Autos generally cost a bit as a company car as they're usually a bit less economical and a little bit more expensive - so choices are slim.
So this Renault pops up. It uses the 1.5dci which is an economical engine and it's mated to the EDC (Renault's version of VWs DSG dual clutch gearbox) which means the CO2 is pretty much the same as the manual. On top of that £25k gets you a top of the range model which looks okay.
My hesitation is out of prejudice though. I've had solely VWs till now and thought all french cars were assembled in a somewhat 'relaxed' fashion with electical and mechanical borkage a matter of when and not if.
So PH massive I'd appreciate your thoughts and experience. Good idea or madness? Any experience of Renault's EDC?
Thanks!
The Kadgeagoogoo is just a cash cow with an added cheese holder and ugly steering wheel (ish). It's white goods motoring but no problem there. Personally I'd buy a Dacia Dust Buster and spend the 15k on an Elise but am guessing that may be outside of the rules of the car scheme. Boo.
'Less famous' isn't really fair, it has literally just launched!
The specs are very good (Signature edition with Bose, LED headlights, Nappa steering wheel and full Pano roof is the one) and the prices are very good, along with low CO2 and good economy figures.
You get a 4 year/100k warranty and 4 years roadside and when all is said and done, it technically is the same as a Qashqai underneath which is hardly a bad thing.
Find a dealer with one (you'll struggle to find an EDC at the moment, most demos are the 1.6 Dci Dyn S Manual)
The specs are very good (Signature edition with Bose, LED headlights, Nappa steering wheel and full Pano roof is the one) and the prices are very good, along with low CO2 and good economy figures.
You get a 4 year/100k warranty and 4 years roadside and when all is said and done, it technically is the same as a Qashqai underneath which is hardly a bad thing.
Find a dealer with one (you'll struggle to find an EDC at the moment, most demos are the 1.6 Dci Dyn S Manual)
Butter Face said:
'Less famous' isn't really fair, it has literally just launched!
The specs are very good (Signature edition with Bose, LED headlights, Nappa steering wheel and full Pano roof is the one) and the prices are very good, along with low CO2 and good economy figures.
You get a 4 year/100k warranty and 4 years roadside and when all is said and done, it technically is the same as a Qashqai underneath which is hardly a bad thing.
Find a dealer with one (you'll struggle to find an EDC at the moment, most demos are the 1.6 Dci Dyn S Manual)
Do you have any experience with the EDC Butters? Do you know what it's like compared to a conventional auto? I've only had torque converters and CVTs previously.The specs are very good (Signature edition with Bose, LED headlights, Nappa steering wheel and full Pano roof is the one) and the prices are very good, along with low CO2 and good economy figures.
You get a 4 year/100k warranty and 4 years roadside and when all is said and done, it technically is the same as a Qashqai underneath which is hardly a bad thing.
Find a dealer with one (you'll struggle to find an EDC at the moment, most demos are the 1.6 Dci Dyn S Manual)
The Signature Nav seems tremendous value, even against the Qashqai.
Fizpop said:
How does he find the boot size? Seems a little cramped with what I assume is the power pack under the floor.
Seems to find it fine, can fit a weeks worth of food shopping for 2 people in it. He gets 55mpg out of it (all town work with large hills on his commute)ETA the bottom lifts up so you can get quite a bit of stuff in there, he has a jacket, tyreweld and quite a bit else, but I can't remember what.
Edited by Blanchimont on Tuesday 6th October 16:26
Fizpop said:
How does he find the boot size? Seems a little cramped with what I assume is the power pack under the floor.
Helped somebody unload some stuff from their boot the other day and it is surprisingly shallow - think a few inches beneath that bootlid shutline and that's your lot! Not good if you need to put a pushchair / wheelchair in there - even if only ocassionally, I suspect it would not fit...hairyben said:
might not be the same thing so check, but when I was discussing 2 pedal vans with my mechanic he said the renault automated-manual box is a horrid thing to drive
2 different boxes. The cars use EDC which is along the same lines as a DSG except maybe not quite as quick shifting.The vans have a quickshift gearbox which gets renamed the quicks
t gearbox because, well because it's st. Fizpop said:
Do you have any experience with the EDC Butters? Do you know what it's like compared to a conventional auto? I've only had torque converters and CVTs previously.
The Signature Nav seems tremendous value, even against the Qashqai.
I've been selling Renault (on and off) for 7 years. The Kadjar is the best car we've ever had, drives sublimely and I would have a Cosmos blue EDC Signature with parking pack.The Signature Nav seems tremendous value, even against the Qashqai.
The EDC is lovely, very slick and smooth, you wouldn't be disappointed!
hairyben said:
might not be the same thing so check, but when I was discussing 2 pedal vans with my mechanic he said the renault automated-manual box is a horrid thing to drive
It's not the same thing, he's talking about the old Quickshift5 auto box, the new one is an EDC box and is very very good.Reliability wise I think Renault's poor reputation is undeserved. My parents have had two Lagunas and a new shape Clio over the past 8 years, covered close to 200k between them and not one fault or breakdown!
Not driven a Kadjar but it gets favourable reviews and the Qashqai underpinnings suggest it'll last well.
I too wanted a company car with low BIK and a nice smooth auto, as well as a big boot and decent spec. Couldn't face another diesel, though. I went for an Auris hybrid estate, which isn't the most characterful car but as a comfy and refined workhorse it's brilliant. Same drivetrain as the CT200h, incidentally, but sacrifices the (relative) sportiness and posh interior for a big boot and much lower list price.
Not driven a Kadjar but it gets favourable reviews and the Qashqai underpinnings suggest it'll last well.
I too wanted a company car with low BIK and a nice smooth auto, as well as a big boot and decent spec. Couldn't face another diesel, though. I went for an Auris hybrid estate, which isn't the most characterful car but as a comfy and refined workhorse it's brilliant. Same drivetrain as the CT200h, incidentally, but sacrifices the (relative) sportiness and posh interior for a big boot and much lower list price.
Fizpop said:
My hesitation is out of prejudice though. I've had solely VWs till now and thought all french cars were assembled in a somewhat 'relaxed' fashion with electical and mechanical borkage a matter of when and not if.
This is one of the big advantages of having a company car - you can choose a car you wouldn't dream of spending your own money on.I always wanted an Alfa but our fleet manager wouldn't add them!
We have a couple of VW's in the family - to be fair they've been OK during what would be the normal company car cycle of 3yrs/60K miles but the tales of out of warranty bills are terrifying.
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