Level crossing crash
Discussion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-34...
What can realistically be done to prevent more of these?
What can realistically be done to prevent more of these?
Hooli said:
Drag them off the bike & throw them under the approaching train. Still working on ideas for repeat offenders.
Are you for real?BBC article said:
British Transport Police said most level crossing offences involved motorists, but they wanted to alert pedestrians and cyclists to the dangers too.
The vast majority of halfwits "acting the c**t" and taking risks with OTHER PEOPLE'S safety at level crossings (and red traffic lights, for that matter ) are DRIVERS.Should we drag THEM from their cars and throw them under trains too? As surely as eggs are eggs, they deserve it more. A cyclist under a train will almost certainly be killed, but the likely damage to the train will probably require nothing more than a hosepipe and a sponge to 'repair'. A car under a train will likely derail the train, take it out of service for an extended period, and completely block the road for a day or more while cranes are called in to lift the train. There is also a high likelihood of injuries, potentially fatal injuries, to passengers on board the train.
So where do you get off on suggesting that a person who risks no-ones safety but his own should be thrown under a train? And I'll ask again. Do you advocate the same punishment for car drivers who cause far graver danger to many people other than themselves?
And have you considered the very real long-term cost to the train driver, having to come to terms with being involved in a traumatic event, if you're going to be shoving idiots under trains? You clearly didn't think this through before typing your reply...
Obvious idiot in "says something obviously idiotic" shocker!
yellowjack said:
Hooli said:
Drag them off the bike & throw them under the approaching train. Still working on ideas for repeat offenders.
Are you for real?yellowjack said:
BBC article said:
British Transport Police said most level crossing offences involved motorists, but they wanted to alert pedestrians and cyclists to the dangers too.
The vast majority of halfwits "acting the c**t" and taking risks with OTHER PEOPLE'S safety at level crossings (and red traffic lights, for that matter ) are DRIVERS.Anyway in this case the barrier did its job so everything was ok
Loks like he was daydreaming to me - or had his eyes down so he didn't see the lights and and an iPod in his ears so didn't hear the warning. Either way he was an accident waiting to happen. If he'd been actively trying to jump the crossing he'd have been properly alert, seen the gate coming down and stopped.
Simpo Two said:
Loks like he was daydreaming to me - or had his eyes down so he didn't see the lights and and an iPod in his ears so didn't hear the warning. Either way he was an accident waiting to happen. If he'd been actively trying to jump the crossing he'd have been properly alert, seen the gate coming down and stopped gone around it.
EFA yellowjack said:
Hooli said:
Drag them off the bike & throw them under the approaching train. Still working on ideas for repeat offenders.
Are you for real?BBC article said:
British Transport Police said most level crossing offences involved motorists, but they wanted to alert pedestrians and cyclists to the dangers too.
The vast majority of halfwits "acting the c**t" and taking risks with OTHER PEOPLE'S safety at level crossings (and red traffic lights, for that matter ) are DRIVERS.Should we drag THEM from their cars and throw them under trains too? As surely as eggs are eggs, they deserve it more. A cyclist under a train will almost certainly be killed, but the likely damage to the train will probably require nothing more than a hosepipe and a sponge to 'repair'. A car under a train will likely derail the train, take it out of service for an extended period, and completely block the road for a day or more while cranes are called in to lift the train. There is also a high likelihood of injuries, potentially fatal injuries, to passengers on board the train.
So where do you get off on suggesting that a person who risks no-ones safety but his own should be thrown under a train? And I'll ask again. Do you advocate the same punishment for car drivers who cause far graver danger to many people other than themselves?
And have you considered the very real long-term cost to the train driver, having to come to terms with being involved in a traumatic event, if you're going to be shoving idiots under trains? You clearly didn't think this through before typing your reply...
Obvious idiot in "says something obviously idiotic" shocker!
Yes, the same for car drivers etc, then sell the cars.
Similar to the same treatment MLMs should get where they are hung from the nearest lamppost.
Now now children - play nicely or we'll put the stabilisers back on your bikes!
There are plenty of drivers, motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians that are doing this every single day... I'd argue (I haven't seen the figures here in Wales and Western) that cyclists and pedestrians cause the greatest number of close calls by train drivers - this was the case in Kent and Sussex a few years ago and across other parts of the uk. This is the reason for one of the level crossing frameworks currently underway to install pedestrian bridges at high risk level crossings.
How do you prevent people not spotting or ignoring warning sirens, flashing lights and nice big barriers coming down... errr.. you can't - some people are able to assess and manage risk to themselves and others, others - well, they could do with a little time sharpening their tools or making a few extra sandwiches for their picnic.
There are plenty of drivers, motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians that are doing this every single day... I'd argue (I haven't seen the figures here in Wales and Western) that cyclists and pedestrians cause the greatest number of close calls by train drivers - this was the case in Kent and Sussex a few years ago and across other parts of the uk. This is the reason for one of the level crossing frameworks currently underway to install pedestrian bridges at high risk level crossings.
How do you prevent people not spotting or ignoring warning sirens, flashing lights and nice big barriers coming down... errr.. you can't - some people are able to assess and manage risk to themselves and others, others - well, they could do with a little time sharpening their tools or making a few extra sandwiches for their picnic.
Getting rid of level crossings wherever possible would seem to be the only answer, because some people are clearly just clearly fking retards: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...
Edited to add videos showing a cross section of road users acting like retards: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8313704/Net...
Edited to add videos showing a cross section of road users acting like retards: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8313704/Net...
Edited by Europa1 on Friday 9th October 14:22
DanMal said:
I'd argue (I haven't seen the figures here in Wales and Western) that cyclists and pedestrians cause the greatest number of close calls by train drivers - this was the case in Kent and Sussex a few years ago and across other parts of the uk. This is the reason for one of the level crossing frameworks currently underway to install pedestrian bridges at high risk level crossings.
From personal experience and reading published and internal reports the greatest trespass comes from pedestrians and cyclists.Way, way down the list comes cars and other motorised vehicles (although dependant on area, farming vehicles can cause issues).
The issue isn't the railway, trains or crossing design - it's thick, ignorant people on foot or cycle.
Some are lucky and get a chance to stop and wait next time - others aren't so lucky.
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