OBD PLUG-IN TRANSMITTERS

[Jon39]

Our American friend, Steve Berry recently told us about the Track Addict software.
Having experimented with it, including acceleration time tests, I would now like to include engine data.

I know little about the OBD subject, so would be grateful for guidance on the following;

1. Is it OBD 2, that a MY2009 V8V would be using?
2. The well known internet retailer have some wireless OBD plug-in transmitters for just a few pounds. Is that what I need?
3. I recall hearing that my car has two OBD sockets. Which one should I use, and where is it?
4. Presumably leaving the transmitter plugged in all the time, does not do any harm.
5. Might it also be possible to show which gear is selected?

Thank you.

[8Tech]

1. Is it OBD 2, that a MY2009 V8V would be using?
Yes, OBD3 has yet to be released and there is a lot of controversy about it so it has been delayed.
2. The well known internet retailer have some wireless OBD plug-in transmitters for just a few pounds. Is that what I need?
Yes as long as they pair to your display, ie smartphone.
3. I recall hearing that my car has two OBD sockets. Which one should I use, and where is it?
Both under the dash, one is for engine systems, the other is chassis systems. A normal OBD2 reader will only "see" the engine systems.
4. Presumably leaving the transmitter plugged in all the time, does not do any harm.
No. However, if you knock it with your knee, you could damage the socket.
5. Might it also be possible to show which gear is selected?
No.

[JonV8V]

When I got one it used Bluetooth and didn't work with an iPhone. I think you can get wifi ones now. I guess I'm just advising you double check which you get and that it will work the way you want

[DB9VolanteDriver]

syncii said:

3. It's the socket nearest to the door in a MY2005 DB9. One nearest to centre console is "Body" whatever that means. Presumably the same in V8V.

Doesn't sound right. OBD2 port is always supposed to be near center console, whether LHD or RHD.

[Jon39]

Thank you for your replies.

Yesterday I was quite shocked (probably should not have been these days) to find a particular feature of the software application.

My complete route could be replayed on a satellite map representation, and above the map is a speed graph. Simply look for the peaks on the graph, move the slider, note the speed (with tenths), and see that exact location.

If a piece of giveaway software can show all this detail using GPS, do you think road cars already have the same capability hidden away? If so, no need for speed cameras.

I will start another topic about this subject, but only when I have a screen capture to show, that cannot be criticised. Of course, I only ever drive very slowly anyway.

[marknash99]

On my v8v it's the obd nearest the centre console for engine systems

[sooty61]

I bought a Vgate wifi one from eBay for £1.99 and together with the Dashcommand app for the iPhone it worked fine on the Vantage and other cars. The port was under the glovebox I seem to remember - the one under the dash was the chassis one (2010 model)

More about Dashcommand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ikwIQfkV98

[divetheworld]

sooty61 said:

I bought a Vgate wifi one from eBay for £1.99 and together with the Dashcommand app for the iPhone it worked fine on the Vantage and other cars. The port was under the glovebox I seem to remember - the one under the dash was the chassis one (2010 model)

More about Dashcommand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ikwIQfkV98

I use that with a wifi OBD module. its tiny and left plugged in all the time.

[JohnG1]

Jon39 said:

Thank you for your replies.

Yesterday I was quite shocked (probably should not have been these days) to find a particular feature of the software application.

My complete route could be replayed on a satellite map representation, and above the map is a speed graph. Simply look for the peaks on the graph, move the slider, note the speed (with tenths), and see that exact location.

If a piece of giveaway software can show all this detail using GPS, do you think road cars already have the same capability hidden away? If so, no need for speed cameras.

I will start another topic about this subject, but only when I have a screen capture to show, that cannot be criticised. Of course, I only ever drive very slowly anyway.

For that to be admissible in court is a very different matter. We've covered this before a while back. A speed camera is certified and tested to give admissible evidence in court. Something that plugs into a socket on your car is not really admissible - who certifies that it's accurate?

[Jon39]

JohnG1 said:

For that to be admissible in court is a very different matter. We've covered this before a while back. A speed camera is certified and tested to give admissible evidence in court. Something that plugs into a socket on your car is not really admissible - who certifies that it's accurate?

Thank you.

My discovery of the amount of detail available with the Track Addict software application, did make me wonder whether this type of information is held within the car anyway. I recall seeing something in the handbook, about AML having the right to hand over data to the authorities.

In he event of a serious crime, it would be right for investigators to have every piece of evidence, particularly if it includes details of journeys driven.

Purely out of interest (nothing to hide), does anyone know whether our cars do record our journey information, if so how long might it be retained for, and has any of this type of evidence ever reached court yet?

Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 11th October 16:53

[JohnG1]

Jon39 said:

JohnG1 said:

For that to be admissible in court is a very different matter. We've covered this before a while back. A speed camera is certified and tested to give admissible evidence in court. Something that plugs into a socket on your car is not really admissible - who certifies that it's accurate?

Thank you.

My discovery of the amount of detail available with the Track Addict software application, did make me wonder whether this type of information is held within the car anyway. I recall seeing something in the handbook, about AML having the right to hand over data to the authorities.

In he event of a serious crime, it would be right for investigators to have every piece of evidence, particularly if it includes details of journeys driven.

Purely out of interest (nothing to hide), does anyone know whether our cars do record our journey information, if so how long might it be retained for, and has any of this type of evidence ever reached court yet?

Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 11th October 16:53

The pre-Bosch ECU V12 models have no persistent storage for this sort of data. Don't know about V8 and Bosch V12 engines.

[JonV8V]

JohnG1 said:

Jon39 said:

JohnG1 said:

For that to be admissible in court is a very different matter. We've covered this before a while back. A speed camera is certified and tested to give admissible evidence in court. Something that plugs into a socket on your car is not really admissible - who certifies that it's accurate?

Thank you.

My discovery of the amount of detail available with the Track Addict software application, did make me wonder whether this type of information is held within the car anyway. I recall seeing something in the handbook, about AML having the right to hand over data to the authorities.

In he event of a serious crime, it would be right for investigators to have every piece of evidence, particularly if it includes details of journeys driven.

Purely out of interest (nothing to hide), does anyone know whether our cars do record our journey information, if so how long might it be retained for, and has any of this type of evidence ever reached court yet?

Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 11th October 16:53

The pre-Bosch ECU V12 models have no persistent storage for this sort of data. Don't know about V8 and Bosch V12 engines.

My V8S has a disclaimer in the handbook saying it does and it can be used by agencies (can't remember the exact words)

[old phart]

I have a 2009 DB9 and while not extensive my Go Point Technology BT1 gets the job done. Chose it as it was recommended from the Track Addict folks. It connects via Bluetooth to my iPhone 6+ and I've never had a problem with it dropping. I've included some pics below and on one you can see the data selections available. A pleasant surprise when I was transferring it to Race Render was that gear selection appeared. Included a link to my first Aston video project. Still working on mic and camera placement - picking up road noise, and the side/back of my head and mirror blocking view of road. Will try higher and lower to see what looks best. I had mounted the camera on the boot lid in past but wanted to include the wheel and gauges.



Link to video - looking it over my sync is off just a bit
https://youtu.be/UN2CscmLCys

Edited by old phart on Monday 12th October 04:17

Edited by old phart on Monday 12th October 04:20

[Jon39]

Thank you Steve.
That is brilliant, and displaying gears as well, but presumably I could not expect to see that feature with a manual gearbox.
Great acceleration. What is your speed limit? -

I see that one of your other videos, has been filmed using a GoPro camera.
Track Addict says it can link by wireless to a GoPro, so will you be trying that, to give you a 1080p video?

[Jon39]

Sorry Steve. I asked a very silly question.
I have just noticed that you are using a GoPro.

I am getting going with this, so thank you for telling us about Track Addict.